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    Hello,
    I am sure someone can help me with this - where do I find BDM records for British Subjects born overseas in non- Commonwealth countries?. Specifically - Spain, 1860-1900, and I won't assume Gibraltar. Are these with the GRO?

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    Hi Bess,

    See this link for some answers.

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    Hi again Bess,

    If you post the name I can have a look at the indexes for you.

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    Hello Procat,
    I am looking for Phoebe Marsden, born ~ 1868 in Spain, died 1902 in England. I am expecting her mother to be a Emily or Deborah Winter, sisters born 1841 and 1847 in Brentwood/Ilford Essex. There might be a Marsden brother to Phoebe who would have died 1897-1901 in Spain, no first name, wife would be Julia. As Phoebe Symmonds (with husband Alfred) a son born in Spain is Albert b. 1896, and an older son,Raymond Nicholas, died between 1894 and 1901, possibly in Spain. Hope these are enough reference points to produce something in a database search. Dates would be +/- one year. Thank you for your generous assistance with this enquiry.

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    Last edited by Bess; 12-07-2009 at 10:13 AM. Reason: Clarification

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    Hi Bess,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bess View Post
    Hello Procat,
    I am looking for Phoebe Marsden, born ~ 1868 in Spain, died 1902 in England. I am expecting her mother to be a Emily or Deborah Winter, sisters born 1841 and 1847 in Brentwood/Ilford Essex.
    Sorry - nothing turned up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bess View Post
    There might be a Marsden brother to Phoebe who would have died 1897-1901 in Spain, no first name, wife would be Julia.
    Sorry, indexes are name of person only. Without a name everything would be guesswork.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bess View Post
    As Phoebe Symmonds (with husband Alfred) a son born in Spain is Albert b. 1896, and an older son,Raymond Nicholas, died between 1894 and 1901, possibly in Spain. Hope these are enough reference points to produce something in a database search. Dates would be +/- one year. Thank you for your generous assistance with this enquiry.

    Cheer
    Bess
    Nothing for Albert in births. Nothing for Raymond Nicholas in deaths.

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    Default Ramsden/Symmonds in Spain

    Hello Doug,
    Got that, and thanks again for your assistance.

    Cheers
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    Bess

    Are you sure it was Spain and not Gibraltar?

    Gib has its own records that would not be returned by the overseas searches

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatashaBatsford
    Are you sure it was Spain and not Gibraltar?

    Gib has its own records that would not be returned by the overseas searches
    .........and then of course there are separate indices for military births.

    All of these minor indices are available on pay-pre-view sites such as Findmypast, TheGenealogist, etc.

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    Default Records Spain/Gibralter

    Thank you natasha and Geoffers for the suggestion. Spain is all I can see on the record but it might refer to Gibralter.

    Cheers Bess

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    Bess, Reguarding- Albert Alfred Symmonds and Phoebe Ramsden.
    They also had a son "Albert Alfred Symmonds II", my GGGrandfather.
    (My grandmother's father) Hope this helps.
    My email is jenniferanstineATgmailDOTcom
    Last edited by christanel; 25-05-2018 at 5:14 AM. Reason: email address disguised to deter spam

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