france birth look up please or census

[cirstybewick]

hello

i am looking for a clemence alphonsina victoria elizabeth finch (thats her whole name lol) born abt 1846 in france newington bs.

i think i have found them in the 1851 census living in camberwell surrey


james finch 38
hannah finch 41
james finch 13
amelia finch 10
franagus finch 8
clemence finch 6
william finch 3


clemance and franagus where the only children born in france, if anyone can find a birth for these people or even census in france of this family i would be very thankful

kind regards

cirsty

[Peter Goodey]

You might like to look out for , 'The British Overseas, A Guide to Records of Their Births, Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths and Burials Available in the United Kingdom', Geoffrey Yeo, London, 2nd edn, 1988.

Kent Library Service should be able to help.

[cirstybewick]

ok thanks i have a look x

[sueannbowen]

Hi Cirsty

this page is really helpful:

https://genealogy.about.com/od/france...h_ancestry.htm

Sue

[pottoka]

Censuses in France are not at all like they are in England and Wales: for example, in Paris, you can look up the Censuses of 1926, 1931 and 1936, and that is your lot! What is more, to find someone on the said Censuses, you need to know where they were living at the time, i.e. their exact address. It's not a way to track someone down.

I'm afraid that I don't believe that Franagus (is that really his name or is it mistranscribed?) and Clémence were born in Newington in France, either. It's just not a French name. Given the state of the 1851 Census form, where their birth town has been transcribed as Newington, I think you need to find them on another Census to get a "second opinion" as to the name of the town.

Without the name of the town, you won't have the slightest chance of getting a birth document for either of them. Each Town Hall in France recorded the births, deaths and marriages in the town, and you can usually get a copy by writing to the Town Hall. But you have to know exactly which one, unfortunately.

How do you know all of Clémence's names? Did she get married in England?

[Peter Goodey]

I don't believe Newington because I don't think that's what the census says!

Although Cirsty doesn't mention Amelia, the 1851 census says she was born in Paris (BS).

The dates are consistent with those British families who took advantage of a period of peace to seek fame and fortune in France and then hurried back PDQ in 1848!

I think that if she finds any further documentation about their births, it will be in British sources, hence the book I suggested.

[Kerrywood]

I don't believe Newington because I don't think that's what the census says!

Looks like Montpelier to me ... ??

Kerrywood

[pottoka]

I don't believe Newington because I don't think that's what the census says!

Although Cirsty doesn't mention Amelia, the 1851 census says she was born in Paris (BS).

The dates are consistent with those British families who took advantage of a period of peace to seek fame and fortune in France and then hurried back PDQ in 1848!

I think that if she finds any further documentation about their births, it will be in British sources, hence the book I suggested.

I'm sorry if I've upset you by repeating what you had said. I was trying to help in my own clumsy way.

I also read Paris for Amelia and am aware that there is a town called Newington in Surrey.

[pottoka]

Looks like Montpelier to me ... ??

Kerrywood

You've got good eyes, Kerrywood! I was going to say that Montpellier has two ells in French, but, of course, it would have been spelt by a Briton!

The only thing that has me wondering is why the family would go off to Montpellier; this was a time when the railways were being built, for example between Rouen and Paris, and the father's occupation makes me think that he might have been involved with that.

Or maybe they just wanted a bit of sunshine?

[Peter Goodey]

I'm sorry if I've upset you

You didn't upset me and I'm sorry if you thought I was having a go at you. I was agreeing with you and also muttering about some points I hadn't noticed before. My clumsiness, if anyone's.