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    Default ERNEST HENRY HART- GAUTEN JOHANNESBURG

    I have been researching my great grandfather Ernest Henry Hart b London 1867 who settled in Johannesburg circa 1902-1905. It is my very recent understanding that he divorced his first wife Adelaide Hart nee Yzerman in 1905- the National Archives show a petition for divorce on behalf of Adelaide in 1905. His daughter Constance Amelia b 1889 is my grandmother. Ernest's parents were Henry Chapman Hart b 1838-1913 and Amelia Hart b1841-1928
    I understand that Ernest re-married possibly to an Elizabeth ( Lizzie) surname unknown that he had other children from that marriage including Bernard, Ruby, Lionel, Marie, Clive who were born around Gauten Johannesburg. My data on Ernest and his parents and ancestry pre South Africa is extensive but I know very little about Ernest post 1900. His sister Constance b 1866 London married Albert Santa Maria and the family settled in Rome circa early 1900s or earlier. I have no knowledge of this family.
    If any researchers have connections to the families I would welcome contact.
    Phillip

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    Default ERNEST HENRY HART-LONDON AND JOHANNESBURG

    For the South African descendants of Ernest Henry Hart who are also my cousins I am enclosing some more data on my Hart lines.
    Ernest's parents ( my 2x great grandparents) were married 28/12/1864 in Bishopsgate London. Amelia Hart b1841-1928 was the daughter of Aaron Hart and Ann Rebecca Crawcour. Her husband Henry Chapman Hart 1838-1919 was the son of John Hart and Elizabeth Jacobs.
    Ernest's sister Constance was born 17/12/1865 at 20 Burton Crescent Tavistock Square Middx and Ernest was born at the same address 28/1/1867


    The GRO Marriage Certificate of Ernest Henry Hart to Adelaide Yzerman:
    18 November 1891 Register Office District of Westminster County of London
    Ernest Henry Hart 27 years batchelor -comedian and club proprietor 51 Haymarket St James Westminster -father- Henry Hart- general agent

    Adelaide Yzerman 21 years spinster no occupation- 57 Cable Street St George in the East- father- Joseph Henry Yzerman- house decorator

    Witnesses:
    Joe Graham
    J.Geo.Somers

    Ernest's father Henry Chapman Hart GRO death certificate:
    22 March 1919
    Home and Hospital for Jewish Incurables Tottenham
    Henry Hart age 83 41 Cowley Road Brixton - formerly Solicitors clerk
    cause of death arthritis; cerebral apoplexy

    Witness F C Kirby- son in law

    GRO Marriage of Ernest Henry Hart's parents
    28 December 1864 at the London Tavern Bishops Gate
    Henry Chapman Hart 25 bachelor - tailor-20 Lower Kennington Green- father- John Hart-gentleman

    Amelia Hart 22 spinster no occupation- Cornwall House Kennington Green- father-Aaron Hart - merchant
    Married according to the rites and ceremonies of the Jewish Religion
    Witnesses
    John Hart
    Aaron Hart

    Married by Nathan Adler Chief Rabbi
    Nb He is a relative of the Hart families

    As previously stated in the former posting I hold significant data on the Hart/Crawcour and other related families. The Crawcour line also settled in South Africa circa 1900s and their descendants are also still there.

    Phillip

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    Looks as if he may have been involved in some court cases. See NAAIRS entries here.

    These records are in Transvaal so you can get copies via eggsa.org

    There are also some Crawcour references

    Well worth having a browse around the NAAIRS site

    https://www.national.archives.gov.za/
    Sue Mackay
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    Default ERNEST HENRY HART- JOHANNESBURG-GAUTENG

    Many thanks Sue for the SA link- the documents confirm that Ernest was in SA from at least 1905-1916. I know from another site that his descendants were living in the Gauteng area from the early 1900s until the 1970s and may well still be in the area.

    This is data from the GRO death certificate of Ernest Henry Hart's mother ( my 2x great grandmother) Amelia Hart.

    GRO Death Certificate
    6 October 1928
    55 Osborne Villas Hove
    Amelia Hart age 95 widow of Henry Hart a solicitor's managing clerk- cause of death cerebral haemorrhage; arterio sclerosis

    Informant
    Kittie Miller niece
    The End House The Droveway Hove

    Nb Amelia was born in 1841 so was 87 when she died
    Kittie Miller was the wife of Hugh Miller ( parents Elly Isaac Miller and Charlotte Crawcour).
    Kittie's mother Edmee Richards had married Dr Napthali Asher Hart in 1887. Asher was uncle to Ernest.

    Phillip

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    Default ELIZABETH SHAW -ERNEST HENRY HART

    For my SA Hart relatives- I hold the Divorce Papers for 1905 relating to Ernest Henry Hart and Adelaide Hart nee Yzerman. These papers also refer to the relationship between Ernest and Elizabeth Shaw and state that Ernest was a Commission Agent in South Africa having left Adelaide some 4 years earlier. The known address for Ernest in 1905 was c/o Alfred Elman Box 5879 Johannesburg SA. The Divorce petition which was uncontested refers to addresses in 1904 where Elizabeth and Ernest had lived namely 36 Cleveland Mansions Chapel St Brixton and 5 Coliseum Terrace Gt Portland St.

    An earlier 1892 Divorce Petition by Ernest against Adelaide and a co-respondent was rejected.
    If my Hart relatives are interested in the documents please contact me.
    Phillip

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    Evelon
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    Hi
    I hope you are still in touch with this site!
    I have been researching a West End club where my ancestor Frederick Wyatt worked as M.C and Dancing Master.
    This was run by Alfred Elman and Joe Graham, until 1896, I am fascinated to find any reference to them
    Andrew

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    Default ERNEST HART

    In reply to the last message I can't add any details because I have no knowledge of how my great grandfather became involved in a club. This background had no relationship to his parents work or his own family background. Ernest's parents were Anglo Jews and his father Henry had several jobs including commission agent and later solicitor's managing clerk. Henry was the son of John Hart and Elizabeth Jacobs and was a tailor when he married. The Hart family and the Jacobs had been in the UK circa 1760s as tailors and glass manufacturers. There were no other relatives involved in comparable work to Ernest.
    When Ernest went to SA he was a commission agent but I have no knowledge as to what specialist area of trade or products.
    Phillip

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    Default WINIFRED AMELIA HART -BORN 1903 KENNINGTON

    For my South African Hart relatives here is the Birth Certificate for Winifred Amelia Hart. The certificate confirms that Winifred was born in Kennington London. Importantly, the real maiden name for her mother was Shaw but on the birth certificate it is given as Hart which is a mystery given the divorce records for her father Ernest Henry Hart and his wife Adelaide Hart nee Yzerman naming Elizabeth Shaw as a co-respondent and giving 36 Cleveland Mansions as a former address for Ernest and Elizabeth.

    15 June 1903 -36 Cleveland Mansions - WINIFRED AMELIA - father- ERNEST HENRY HART - Mother- ELIZABETH HART formerly HART- Occupation of father Commission Agent- Signature , description and residence of informant - E H HART father- 36 Cleveland Mansions Cahpel Street - Registered 23 July 1903

    Given the various newspaper accounts of Ernest Henry Hart and his move to South Africa with Elizabeth and the lack of a formal divorce due to Adelaide failing to proceed with final settlement it maybe no surprise that Ernest covered up his English marriage and the fact that he also had a daughter Constance Amelia who my South African relatives knew nothing about. Who Elizabeth Shaw aka Hart parents were and her origins remains a continuing puzzle.

    Phillip

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