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    One of my more recent ancestors was a pianist who was famous in classical music circles. She was my Nan's cousin and died in London, where she was born, in 1996, as far as we know without issue. A collection of her documents is held at the Callaway Centre, Australia. These were donated by her husband, a Dr Harry Waters. Why they are in Oz is a mystery as my side of the family have no known connection to the country so I have emailed the Callaway to find out and am awaiting their reply.

    Dr Waters was, as far as Google tells me, a GP with a surgery at Castelnau in Barnes, SW13 - this is also the address we have for his wife, Irene, who performed under her maiden name of Kohler (found via A****'s phone directory registers). The Google results for Dr Waters at the Castelnau address appear to be quite old and a search of that address indicates that it has been sold at least once in the past 10 years and that the property may now be owned by a design comapny. Given that Irene Kohler was born in 1909 it seems reasonable to assume that her husband, Dr Waters, has also passed away, hence I feel that I can mention his name on this site.

    I would like to find out more about Dr Waters - perhaps he had family he knew my ancestor. I dont know anything much about her apart from her professional life as it seems she had little to do with her extended family.

    My cousin ("B"), a professor of music and duettist who is well known in musical circles herself, met Irene by chance a couple of times when she was starting out in her career and Irene judged competitions. My parents divorced many years ago and so I didn't know of "B" until I began researching my family and found that she was doing the same via a genealogy website. Sadly, "B" is seriously ill now and so to cheer her up a little it would give me even more pleasure to discover more about Dr Waters and thus our Great Aunt Irene - but where would I start?

    If anyone has any idea as to whom I could contact to find out more of Dr Waters I would be incredibly grateful.

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    Sorry - my post should read ".. perhaps he had family WHO knew my ancestor".

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    Spangle - perhaps if you ordered his death certificate it would have informant name that would be his relative unless he died before she did. There are several Harry Waters born between 1903 and 1907 in London area. Did he have a middle name? You might have to hunt for his parents and start another mini tree and trace his siblings/himself towards current times.

    The only other thing I can think of is to contact the UK medical bureau or whatever its called and see if they have anything listed in his records. He would have had to register an application to practice. Also when you find the death for him, maybe there is a Will to look up.

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    There's this bit about a Dr. Harry Waters in a Freemason's publication:

    https://www.freemasonrytoday.net/03/p...?printnice=yes

    72 Years a Mason!

    On 8 December 1997 Fulham Lodge 2512 celebrated W. Bro Harry Waters' staggering 70th year as a lodge member, clocking up over 72 years as a mason (he was initiated in July 1925 into Commercial Lodge, 245 in Dublin). Becoming WM of Fulham Lodge in 1938, he was awarded London Grand Rank in 1950 and hasn't missed a summons for over 20 years. A pianist and clarinet player, Bro Harry continues as the lodge organist. He is also a member of the Magic Circle, a joker and raconteur and a doctor to the Amateur Boxing Association. Bro Harry served his country in South Africa, India and Burma during the war and is still a qualified doctor. Asked whether or not the craft had changed much in the last 72 years, the veteran mason was of the opinion that it hadn't really changed at all. W. Bro Dr Harry Waters PM, LGR was born on 16 August 1903.

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    This could be a death certificate worth ordering:

    Name: Harry Waters
    Birth Date: 16 Aug 1903
    Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 2002
    Age at death (estimated): 98
    Registration district: Hammersmith and Fulham
    Register number: HF2E
    District and Subdistrict: 2601E
    Entry number: 193

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    Another sighting of a Harry Waters on a UK incoming passenger list:

    Name: Harry Waters
    Birth Date: abt 1903
    Arrival Date: 6 Aug 1928
    Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
    Embarked: Madeira
    Ship Name: Kenilworth Castle
    Shipping Line: The Union Castle Mail Steamship Company

    His occupation is "Medical", his proposed address in the UK is 28 Castletown, London SW 13.

    He is travelling with 21 year old Julia Waters.

    A first wife?

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    Default Doctor Waters was my great grandfather

    Quote Originally Posted by Spangle View Post
    One of my more recent ancestors was a pianist who was famous in classical music circles. She was my Nan's cousin and died in London, where she was born, in 1996, as far as we know without issue. A collection of her documents is held at the Callaway Centre, Australia. These were donated by her husband, a Dr Harry Waters. Why they are in Oz is a mystery as my side of the family have no known connection to the country so I have emailed the Callaway to find out and am awaiting their reply.

    Dr Waters was, as far as Google tells me, a GP with a surgery at Castelnau in Barnes, SW13 - this is also the address we have for his wife, Irene, who performed under her maiden name of Kohler (found via A****'s phone directory registers). The Google results for Dr Waters at the Castelnau address appear to be quite old and a search of that address indicates that it has been sold at least once in the past 10 years and that the property may now be owned by a design comapny. Given that Irene Kohler was born in 1909 it seems reasonable to assume that her husband, Dr Waters, has also passed away, hence I feel that I can mention his name on this site.

    I would like to find out more about Dr Waters - perhaps he had family he knew my ancestor. I dont know anything much about her apart from her professional life as it seems she had little to do with her extended family.

    My cousin ("B"), a professor of music and duettist who is well known in musical circles herself, met Irene by chance a couple of times when she was starting out in her career and Irene judged competitions. My parents divorced many years ago and so I didn't know of "B" until I began researching my family and found that she was doing the same via a genealogy website. Sadly, "B" is seriously ill now and so to cheer her up a little it would give me even more pleasure to discover more about Dr Waters and thus our Great Aunt Irene - but where would I start?

    If anyone has any idea as to whom I could contact to find out more of Dr Waters I would be incredibly grateful.
    Hi, I see that this post is pretty old, but Harry Waters was my great grandfather and I'd be happy to correspond with you if you're still looking for information. He had two children Nathalie (my grandmother from his first wife) and Geoffrey. I remember him fondly before he died when I was 20 years old. Best wishes and let me know, Lucy

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    Default Dr Harry Waters

    I have only recently come across this thread about Harry Waters. I'm not sure if you know this but his parents were Kalman and Kate Goldwater. Kalman Goldwater immigrated to Ireland from Lithuania circa 1902. His wife Kate, who was 10 years younger than him was born in England. Kalman Goldwater was my grandfather's uncle, which is what has me interested in researching the family. If you're interested in continuing the discussion please post on the thread or email me directly at [email protected].

    Quote Originally Posted by Spangle View Post
    One of my more recent ancestors was a pianist who was famous in classical music circles. She was my Nan's cousin and died in London, where she was born, in 1996, as far as we know without issue. A collection of her documents is held at the Callaway Centre, Australia. These were donated by her husband, a Dr Harry Waters. Why they are in Oz is a mystery as my side of the family have no known connection to the country so I have emailed the Callaway to find out and am awaiting their reply.

    Dr Waters was, as far as Google tells me, a GP with a surgery at Castelnau in Barnes, SW13 - this is also the address we have for his wife, Irene, who performed under her maiden name of Kohler (found via A****'s phone directory registers). The Google results for Dr Waters at the Castelnau address appear to be quite old and a search of that address indicates that it has been sold at least once in the past 10 years and that the property may now be owned by a design comapny. Given that Irene Kohler was born in 1909 it seems reasonable to assume that her husband, Dr Waters, has also passed away, hence I feel that I can mention his name on this site.

    I would like to find out more about Dr Waters - perhaps he had family he knew my ancestor. I dont know anything much about her apart from her professional life as it seems she had little to do with her extended family.

    My cousin ("B"), a professor of music and duettist who is well known in musical circles herself, met Irene by chance a couple of times when she was starting out in her career and Irene judged competitions. My parents divorced many years ago and so I didn't know of "B" until I began researching my family and found that she was doing the same via a genealogy website. Sadly, "B" is seriously ill now and so to cheer her up a little it would give me even more pleasure to discover more about Dr Waters and thus our Great Aunt Irene - but where would I start?

    If anyone has any idea as to whom I could contact to find out more of Dr Waters I would be incredibly grateful.

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