HARDING in Cornwall

[amehn]

I am looking for the family of my gg grandmother: Elizabeth Williams HARDING, who was born in Lanteglos/ Polstraw/ Cannelford in 1844.

Her father was John HARDING, originally from Devon and her mother Rebecca, maybe also from Devon. Perhaps John and Rebecca were married in Cannelford?

I'm not sure where they were in 1851.

I'm still not too clear on the places either. Is Lanteglos part of Postraw then part of Cannelford...

much thanks

[Scottie]

Dear Amenh,

Here is what I know at present

Descendants of John Harding

1 John Harding b: 1820 in Devon(Buckland) d: Bef. 1871 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(31)Slate Quarryman

.. +Rebecca Williams b: 1814 in Devon(Torrington) 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(38) 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(47) 1871
Census: Edmonton, St Breock(57)with Mary 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(67)Bd of F. Cornelius
........ 2 Elizabeth Williams Harding b: 1844 in Lanteglos by Camelford
............ +Joseph Knight Hewett b: 1839 in St Breock Christening: 13 Aug 1839 St Breock m: 03 Sep 1864 St Breock Father: Hugh Hewett

Mother: Sarah Knight 1841 Census: Perlees Cott., St Breock(1)

........ 2 Mary Williams Harding b: 1849 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(2) 1871 Census: Edmonton, St
Breock(22) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(32)
............ +Francis Cornelius b: 1850 in Advent(1871Lanteglos) Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 1851 Census: Trevia Mills,
Lanteglos by Camelford(1) 1861 Census: Otterham(16)Ag Lab born Advent 1871 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(23)bornLanteglos
1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(35)Gen Lab
................... 3 Francis George Cornelius b: 1867 in St Br851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(38) 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(47) 1871
Census: Edmonton, St Breock(57)with Mary 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(67)Bd of F. Cornelius
........ 2 Elizabeth Williams Harding b: 1844 in Lanteglos by Camelford
............ +Joseph Knight Hewett b: 1839 in St Breock Christening: 13 Aug 1839 St Breock m: 03 Sep 1864 St Breock Father: Hugh Hewett
Mother: Sarah Knight 1841 Census: Perlees Cott., St Breock(1)
........ 2 Mary Williams Harding b: 1849 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(2) 1871 Census: Edmonton, St
Breock(22) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(32)
............ +Francis Con, St Breock(47) 1871
Census: Edmonton, St Breock(57)with Mary 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(67)Bd of F. Cornelius
........ 2 Elizabeth Williams Harding b: 1844 in Lanteglos by Camelford
............ +Joseph Knight Hewett b: 1839 in St Breock Christening: 13 Aug 1839 St Breock m: 03 Sep 1864 St Breock Father: Hugh Hewett
Mother: Sarah Knight 1841 Census: Perlees Cott., St Breock(1)
........ 2 Mary Williams Harding b: 1849 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(2) 1871 Census: Edmonton, St
Breock(22) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(32)
............ +Francis Cornelius b: 1850 in Advent(1871Lanteglos) Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 1851 Census: Trevia Mills,
Lanteglos by Camelford(1) 1861 Census: Otterham(16)Ag Lab born Advent 1871 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(23)bornLanteglos
1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(35)Gen Lab
................... 3 Francis George Cornelius b: 1867 in St Breock 1871 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(4)born Lanteglos 1881 Census: Edmonton,
St Breock(14)
................... 3 Mary Elizabeth Cornelius b: 1868 in St Breock 1871 Census: St Breock(3)visit Uncle T. Cornelius 1881 Census: Edmonton,
St Breock(13)
.ornelius b: 1850 in Advent(1871Lanteglos) Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 1851 Census: Trevia Mills,
Lanteglos by Camelford(1) 1861 Census: Otterham(16)Ag Lab born Advent 1871 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(23)bornLanteglos
1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(35)Gen Lab
................... 3 Francis George Cornelius b: 1867 in St Breock 1871 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(4)born Lanteglos 1881 Census: Edmonton,
St Breock(14)
................... 3 Mary Elizabeth Cornelius b: 1868 in St Breock 1871 Census: St Breock(3)visit Uncle T. Cornelius 1881 Census: Edmonton,
St Breock(13)
....................... +James Brown b: 1868 in St Breock m: 16 Jul 1894 St Breock Father: Richard Thomas Brown Mother: Jane Kitto d: 1922
1871 Census: St Breock(3) 1881 Census: Trevanson, St Breock(13)Ag Lab
................... 3 Philipa J. Cornelius b: 1877 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(4)
................... 3 Edith Cornelius b: 1879 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(2)
........ 2 Rebecca Harding b: 1850 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(1) 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(10)
1881 Census: Aberdare, Glamorgan(31)
............ +Thomas Cornelius b: 1844 in Lanteglos Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 185...................... +James Brown b: 1868 in St Breock m: 16 Jul 1894 St Breock Father: Richard Thomas Brown Mother: Jane Kitto d: 1922
1871 Census: St Breock(3) 1881 Census: Trevanson, St Breock(13)Ag Lab
................... 3 Philipa J. Cornelius b: 1877 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(4)
................... 3 Edith Cornelius b: 1879 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(2)
........ 2 Rebecca Harding b: 1850 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(1) 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(10)
1881 Census: Aberdare, Glamorgan(31)
............ +Thomas Cornelius b: 1844 in Lanteglos Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 1851 Census: Trevia Mills, Lanteglos by

................... 3 Mary Elizabeth Cornelius b: 1868 in St Breock 1871 Census: St Breock(3)visit Uncle T. Cornelius 1881 Census: Edmonton,
St Breock(13)
....................... +James Brown b: 1868 in St Breock m: 16 Jul 1894 St Breock Father: Richard Thomas Brown Mother: Jane Kitto d: 1922
1871 Census: St Breock(3) 1881 Census: Trevanson, St Breock(13)Ag Lab
................... 3 Philipa J. Cornelius b: 1877 in Wales(Glamorgan! Census: Trevia Mills, Lanteglos by[/left]

................... 3 Mary Elizabeth Cornelius b: 1868 in St Breock 1871 Census: St Breock(3)visit Uncle T. Cornelius 1881 Census: Edmonton,
St Breock(13)
....................... +James Brown b: 1868 in St Breock m: 16 Jul 1894 St Breock Father: Richard Thomas Brown Mother: Jane Kitto d: 1922
1871 Census: St Breock(3) 1881 Census: Trevanson, St Breock(13)Ag Lab
................... 3 Philipa J. Cornelius b: 1877 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(4)
................... 3 Edith Cornelius b: 1879 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(2)
........ 2 Rebecca Harding b: 1850 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(1) 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(10)
1881 Census: Aberdare, Glamorgan(31)
............ +Thomas Cornelius b: 1844 in Lanteglos Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 1851 Census: Trevia Mills, Lanteglos by
Camelford(7) 1861 Census: Pendavey, Minster(17)Ag Lab 1871 Census: St Breock(27) 1881 Census: Aberdare,
Glamorgan(37)Navvy
.....9 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(4)
................... 3 Edith Cornelius b: 1879 in Wales(Glamorgan) 1881 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(2)
........ 2 Rebecca Harding b: 1850 in Lanteglos by Camelford 1851 Census: Trewalder, Lanteglos(1) 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(10)
1881 Census: Aberdare, Glamorgan(31)
............ +Thomas Cornelius b: 1844 in Lanteglos Father: George Cornelious Mother: Sarah ? 1851 Census: Trevia Mills, Lanteglos by
Camelford(7) 1861 Census: Pendavey, Minster(17)Ag Lab 1871 Census: St Breock(27) 1881 Census: Aberdare,
Glamorgan(37)Navvy
........ 2 Thomas James Harding b: 1856 in Cornwall 1861 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(5) 1871 Census: Edmonton, St Breock(15)with F.
Cornelius[/left]

[amehn]

Dear Scottie, Just to let you know, I have got much further on Rebecca HARDING (nee Williams, first married to ? LYNE in Devon)

Rebecca married John in 1843, Stoke Damerel, Devon.

By the 1871 census she was a widow yet again, so John HARDING died sometime between 1861 and then. Her younger brother Roger was also a widower, in his case by 1861.

1841 census HO107/0243 Folio 6 Page 6 Culley Ford, Frithelstock, Devon

LYNE Rebecca 25
LYNE John 8

1851 census HO107/1898 133 14 Truwalden, Langteglos, Cornwall

John Harding, head, 31, Slate Quarryman, b. Devon Buckland Brewer
Rebecca, wife, 38, b. Devon Torrington
Elizabeth, dau, 6, b. Cornwall Langteglos
Mary, dau, 2, b. do.
Rebecca, dau, 1 b. do.
John Lyne, son in law (stepson), unm, 18, Cordwainer, b. Devon Torrington
Roger Williams, brother in law, unm, 26, Slate quarryman, b. Devon Torrington

1861 census RG9/1541 58 4 Edmonton, St Breock, Cornwall

John Harding, head, 40, Plate quarry man, b. Nutlam Devonshire
Rebecca, 47, b. Great Torrington
Rebecca, dau, 10, b. Langteglos
Thomas Jas, son, 5, b. do.

1871 census RG10/2254 63 7 Edmonton, St Breock, Cornwall

Francis Cornelius , head, 23 (25?), b. Langteglos
Mary do., wife, 22, b. St Breock
Francis George, do. son, 4, b. Langteglos
Phillip(a) do., boarder, unm, 23, scholar , b. do.
Rebecca Harding, M-Law, wid, 59, b. do.
Thomas James Harding, B Law, 15, Slate quarry, b. do.

1881 census Edmonton, St Breock, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341551 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2295 / 62 Page Number 11

Francis CORNELIUS Head M Male 35 Advent, Cornwall, England General Labourer
Mary W. CORNELIUS Wife M Female 32 Lantegloss, Cornwall, England
Francis G. CORNELIUS Son Male 14 St Breock, Cornwall, England General Labourer
Mary E. CORNELIUS Daur Female 13 St Breock, Cornwall, England
Philipa J. CORNELIUS Daur Female 4 Llandilatty Bart, Glamorgan, Wales
Edith CORNELIUS Daur Female 2 Llangyfilach, Glamorgan, Wales
Rebecca HARDING Boarder W Female (Mother-in-Law) 67 Torrington, Devon, England


There seems to be a link with these families and Glamorgan in Wales. By 1871 Roger Williams is living there with his son Jeremiah. I don't know who his daughters Mary and Elizabeth went to live with.

[Scottie]

Thanks for the update There were 156 people in my database with links to Glamorgan. Lots of the ship carpenters went to Cardiff and there were miners of various types who found their way there too. Some went there for the Copper works, others to the coal mines. My husband's Grandfather was a ship captain and he went there when Cory & Sons moved there from Padstow.