Church of Ireland Clergy

[harfin]

Does anyone have access to a list of Church of Ireland clergy circa 1830's ?

I have a Robert Hamilton that I'm trying to trace who was a Clerk in Holy Orders.

I have reasonably comprehensive details regarding his son Francis who was born in mid 1835 in Navan, County Meath and subsequent family, but finding his father is a trial!

On An.....y I found a Rev. Archibald Robert Hamilton who was married in Co. Cork but that was nearly 20 years earlier than Francis' birth, so probably not him.

I've looked on the C.of E. clergy database but that appears to not include Ireland.

Thanks
Alan

[sharonburn67]

Hi - I'm new here and I am wondering if we are looking for the same person?

I recently found some old documents relating to my ggg grandfather Dr Francis Dancey Hamilton born in 1835 in Co Meath. In a letter he mentions his father Rev Robert PD Hamilton and on Francis' marriage cert his father is a 'Clerk in Orders'. I have a death date for Robert and some letters and info on some Hamilton family land in County Monaghan but after that I'm stuck. The whole Irish connection is drawing a blank.

Did you ever find out about Robert Hamilton and do you think it's the same person?

[Hollytree]

Hi

I have in the past looked for Church of Ireland clergy, and this library may help in locating records for you, https://ireland.anglican.org/

Good luck

Anne

[harfin]

Hi - I'm new here and I am wondering if we are looking for the same person? I recently found some old documents relating to my ggg grandfather Dr Francis Dancey Hamilton born in 1835 in Co Meath. In a letter he mentions his father Rev Robert PD Hamilton and on Francis' marriage cert his father is a 'Clerk in Orders'. I have a death date for Robert and some letters and info on some Hamilton family land in County Monaghan but after that I'm stuck. The whole Irish connection is drawing a blank. Did you ever find out about Robert Hamilton and do you think it's the same person?

Hi Sharon

Yes I reasonably we are! My connection is actually via my brother Derek whose wife is a Hamilton.

I found some details regarding the Hamilton clergymen via the Church of Ireland archives in Dublin. From that and following some other contacts we now have a pretty good (and substantiated) line from her father (Robert Frances Dancey HAMILTON (1908-1989) back to 1772.

The Francis Dancey HAMILTON you mention is I am fairly confident, my sister-in-law's Great Grandfather, i.e.

Frances HART (nee HAMILTON) - my sister-in-law
Robert Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1908 - 1989)
Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (1873 - 1951)
Dr. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1837 - 1903)
Rev. Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (app.1807 - 1870)
Rev. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1772 - 1832)

Whilst digging for this detail, another interesting connection popped out of the brickwork regarding the last mentioned F.D. HAMILTON's wife (Martha BARRY) whose lineage we think is pretty sound back to (Baron?) Peter METGE (1665 - 1735)

As to location, most of the records regarding the early HAMILTON and METGE families revolve around the town / village of Athlumney in Co. Meath in Eire. The wife of Peter METGE though is reportedly from one of the Scottish STRATHMORE family although whether this is THE important LYON family (later to become BOWES-LYON) is still very conjectural.

No doubt my brother Derek and wife Frances would I am sure like to make contact with you direct, and to that end I am also sending you a PM giving my email address should be of the same mind.

Kind regards
Alan

[sharonburn67]

Wow, thankyou very much Alan. That follows what I know and then adds some more - fantastic!

And thanks Anne - the site looks very promising.

I'm glad I asked!!

[harfin]

Hello again Sharon

If you would like copies of the full data and documents Frances (my s-i-l) holds, I'm sure she would be happy to oblige, and Frances would be most interested to sight any data and document copies you may hold.

Kind regards
Alan

[sharonburn67]

That would be great - I've sent an e-mail which you can forward on if necessary.
Let me know if you receive it

[MindfulRoz]

Hi Sharon

Yes I reasonably we are! My connection is actually via my brother Derek whose wife is a Hamilton.

I found some details regarding the Hamilton clergymen via the Church of Ireland archives in Dublin. From that and following some other contacts we now have a pretty good (and substantiated) line from her father (Robert Frances Dancey HAMILTON (1908-1989) back to 1772.

The Francis Dancey HAMILTON you mention is I am fairly confident, my sister-in-law's Great Grandfather, i.e.

Frances HART (nee HAMILTON) - my sister-in-law
Robert Francis Dancey HAMILTON (1908 - 1989)
Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (1873 - 1951)
Dr. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1837 - 1903)
Rev. Robert Pocrich Dancey HAMILTON (app.1807 - 1870)
Rev. Francis Dancey HAMILTION (app 1772 - 1832)

Whilst digging for this detail, another interesting connection popped out of the brickwork regarding the last mentioned F.D. HAMILTON's wife (Martha BARRY) whose lineage we think is pretty sound back to (Baron?) Peter METGE (1665 - 1735)

As to location, most of the records regarding the early HAMILTON and METGE families revolve around the town / village of Athlumney in Co. Meath in Eire. The wife of Peter METGE though is reportedly from one of the Scottish STRATHMORE family although whether this is THE important LYON family (later to become BOWES-LYON) is still very conjectural.

No doubt my brother Derek and wife Frances would I am sure like to make contact with you direct, and to that end I am also sending you a PM giving my email address should be of the same mind.

Kind regards
Alan

Hi I'm new here, but I have a little more on the Dancey Hamilton which I can post when I've found where I filed the details!
Basically I'm interested in the Dancey line in Meath/Monaghan in late 17 & early 18 centuries; a Mary Dancey married Robert Hamilton (who was a surveyor & in the customs/excise service) in about 1758. Mary was a cousin of Pockrich Dancey (P's father was Francis Dancey). I'm especially interested in any other children of Mary & Robert, as the naming may indicate who mary's father was.
My GG grandfather (born about 1810 in Co Cavan) was named Pockridge Dancey & so must somehow be related to the earlier Pockrich Dancey

I also have a bit on the Metge & Barry families as the earlier Danceys & Pockrich Dancey had married into these families

Any help you can give about the Hamiltons/Dancey Hamiltons would be really great
thanks

[Seán FDO]

Hello! My g-g-great grandfather on my paternal side was Dr. Francis Dancy Hamilton, born 1835-37.
Coincidently, my mother's family have strong Cavan roots! I'm quite intrigued with the Dancy name. I note you mentioned a first name of Porich, which to me is the phonetic pronunciation of 'Patrick' spelt in Irish - Padraig - Given that the Hamiltons are clearly of Protestant planter stock I wonder if the Dancys have can be traced back to native stock?! I'm born & raised in Scotland by the way!

[harfin]

Hello! My g-g-great grandfather on my paternal side was Dr. Francis Dancy Hamilton, born 1835-37.
Coincidently, my mother's family have strong Cavan roots! I'm quite intrigued with the Dancy name. I note you mentioned a first name of Porich, which to me is the phonetic pronunciation of 'Patrick' spelt in Irish - Padraig - Given that the Hamiltons are clearly of Protestant planter stock I wonder if the Dancys have can be traced back to native stock?! I'm born & raised in Scotland by the way!

Hello again Sean
As I said my data is limited as the material is only relevant to my my sister-in-law's family tree, however the information I have may shed some light on the points you raise:
The link to the Scottish royal family is via a Reverend James Lyon who was ordained 1671 after completing an MA at Aberdeen. The church records show his birth listed at Goldrum in Scotland circa 1642. Initially he was a curate to a Mr Anthony BARRY*. He took up a vacancy in in Co. Neath with Church of Ireland. It is believed there is a direct link with the Lyon family (that devolved into the Bowes-Lyon family) thus the royalty link.

Rev. Frances Dancey HAMILTON b. circa 1837 was the son of Robert Pochrich Dancey HAMILTON (b.1807) and Ellen PALMER. R.P.D. was the son of Frances Dancey HAMILTON (b.1772) and Martha BARRY (potential link to Rev J Lyon's original posting*).

Martha BARRY was the daughter of Richard BARRY and Mary METGE (a descendant of Baron METGE - an allegedly wealthy Huguenot family who resettled in Eire following the Edict of Nantes)

If you would like more information, I suggest you email me your postal address, which I will pass on to my brother Derek and his wife Frances (nee HAMILTON - granddaughter of Francis Dancey HAMILTON.

Kind regards
Alan A HART
alanhart256ATgmailDOTcom
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