Another Newbie

[Sandyhall]

Hi ted

The one I thought it was is not the right one. Its back to the drawing board then.

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Hi Ted

I've found 1871 Census

Annie Benzani b 1848 Clerkenwell, Mantle Maker
Edward C b1871 Lambeth
Eleanor b1869 Lambeth
Mary A Moss b1819 Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk - Aunt

Then 1891

Anne Benzino b1851 Clerkenwell Needlewoman (added Shirt)
Eleanor b1870 Wandsworth Millener (added Dress)
Albert G b1877 Vauxhall
Frances b1884 Peckham

But can't find her husband anywhere, where's he gone to

Found a marriage for Eleanor to Aaron Baldwin in 1894 Lambeth, Vol no 1d, Page no 674 on FreeBMD

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

Hi

found 1891 Census
Charles Benzoni b1879 Vauxhall at Lambeth New School
George Frederick b1881 Vauxhall at Lambeth New School

Also found both births on FreeBMD

Sandy

[Mutley]

Hello Ted,
I am sorry I don't think I have got much further than you or Sandy. This is confusing because there is another Sarah Moss born abt 1845 in Clerkenwell. She is the daughter of Richard and Ann but cannot be yours as she is with them in 1871.

I cannot find Sarah in 1851 which is a shame as the location may give more of a clue as to where her birth was registered. She also uses both Anne and Sarah as first names.

In 1861
Sarah born Clerkenwell 1848, is with (says) mother Mary Ann, a widow, she is a mantle maker born Bury St. Edmonds.
Class: RG9; Piece: 350; Folio: 103; Page: 31
They are living in Lambeth

1871 Annie Benzani
born Clerkenwell in 1848
is with (says) aunt Mary Ann Moss, age 52 born Bury St Edmunds.
Edward C 2mths
Eleanor 2
Class: RG10; Piece: 674; Folio: 97; Page: 28
living Lambeth

1891 Anne Benzoni
born Clerkenwell in 1851 with Albert
Albert G 14
Eleanor 21
Frances 7
Class: RG12; Piece: 395; Folio 90; Page 44

The only Albert Benzoni death I can see is one born abt 1837 and died in Lambeth Jun 1912. 1d/299

[Tederator]

Hi there, first up I would like to thank everybody for their help in my research of Sarah Anne MOSS, there is such a lot of info for me to sort through and to fill some gaps in my Family Tree. I have got back to Charles BENZONI born in Como Italy about 1811, a major task for me is to try and get into some Italian BMD records and search around in there but I don't think I will have much chance of doing that (apart from going to Italy), but one never knows what will turn up in this genealogy game.
While I'm here I must say I think this is a terrific site with so many people willing to help,I hope that I will be able to return that in some way. There is so much to look through here it will take me a while to read through it all. Thank you all so much.
Ted.

[Tederator]

Hello Ted,


1871 Annie Benzani
born Clerkenwell in 1848
is with (says) aunt Mary Ann Moss, age 52 born Bury St Edmunds.
Edward C 2mths
Eleanor 2
Class: RG10; Piece: 674; Folio: 97; Page: 28
living Lambeth

1891 Anne Benzoni
born Clerkenwell in 1851 with Albert
Albert G 14
Eleanor 21
Frances 7
Class: RG12; Piece: 395; Folio 90; Page 44

The only Albert Benzoni death I can see is one born abt 1837 and died in Lambeth Jun 1912. 1d/299

Hi Mutley,
I'm beginning to think that Sarah must have been born in 1848, that would make her 19 years of age in 1867 (a minor) when she married Albert BENZONI, I had a look in the GRO index for that year and the only likely one is registered at London E, would Clerkenwell be classed as London E?, there are none shown there that says Clerkenwell.
In the 1891 census Albert G was my Grandfather born in 1867.
In the 1901 census she appears as Annie HOMERSTON with her then husband Henry HOMERSTON and her BENZONI children. Sarah's first husband was still around somewhere, he died in 1912, so where he went to I don't know, I've have had a search around for him with no luck. Sarah herself died in 1906, in Lambeth I think it was.
Cheers
Ted.

[Sandyhall]

Mutley and Ted

This is what I've got so far

Charles Benzoni b1801 Como Italy comes to England and marries Eleanor Crow nee' Brannan in 1832 Chelsey (Pallots Marriage Index) found them on
1841 census as BENGONI - Dairyman
1851 census as BENZONI - Unreadable
1861 census as BENSONE - Commission Agent
1871 census as BENZONI - Interpreter
1881 census as BENZONI - Interpreter
Children as follows
Charles Thomas b1832 (41,61 census) he goes to New Zealand
Amey b1834 (41 census)
Frances Henry b1835 (51,61,71 census)
Albert b1837 - 1912 (41, 61 census) marriage to Sarah ann Caroline Moss
Frances Rose Ceiclia b1840 (41,51,61 census)

Continued.................

[Sandyhall]

Continued..............

Albert Benzoni married Sarah Ann Caroline Moss their children are as follows
Eleanor E b1870 (71,91,1901 census) she married Aaron Baldwin in 1894
Edward Charles b1871 Lambeth (71 census)
Mary Ann b1873 -1873 Lambeth
Annie Frances b1874 - 1875 Lambeth
Albert George b1876 - 1941 (91 census) married Matilda Minna Lightfoot in 1904 died Bridgend, Glam, Wales
Charles b1878 (91,1901 census) Lambeth
George Frederick b1881 (91, 1901 census) Lambeth
Frances Sophia b1883 (91,1901 census) Greenwich, she married Horace H Henley in 1924 Southwark

Found them all on the Census, FreeBMD, IGI and Ted's Family Tree on
Ancestry, also found some other BENZONI males born in Italy that could be Charle's brothers (need to go and look them up again B****y daughter Louise has gone and split coffee on my papers and thrown them away.)

Sandy

[Sandyhall]

The other's I found are

1851 Census (Brothers)
Peter age 28, b1823 Lombard Italy
Abraham age 22, b1828 Lombard Italy
living at 10 Myddleton Street, Clerkenwell, Artificial Flower Makers

1881 census (Father and Son)
Antony age 56, b1825 Italy (a widow)
Antany Jur age26, b1855 Italy
living at 14 Wilmington Square, Clerkenwell, Artificial Flower Makers

found a death for Antonio Sept qtr 1901 age 72 Pancras
(which would be about right for the father above)

Sandy

[Mutley]

Well Sandy, I think you have done a fantastic job there,
Ted should be over the moon.

Ted, The postal codes for this area of London are:
EC
1 Clerkenwell
2 Moorgate
3 Fenchurch Street
4 City of London

E
1 Aldgate
2 Bethnal Green
3 Bow & Old Ford
4 Chingford
5 Clapton
6 East Ham
7 Forest Gate
8 Hackney
9 Homerton
10 Leyton
11 Leytonstone
12 Manor Park
13 Plaistow
14 Poplar
15 Stratford
16 Victoria Docks & North Woolwich
17 Walthamstow
18 South Woodford

Clerkenwell is EC1 but other areas of London E are not so very far away.
Did you also know that Clerkenwell had a wonderful Italian Church on Saffron Hill, I believe. The area was known as Little Italy.
https://www.hidden-london.com/littleitaly.html