1861 Lookup please - VALLIS

[HiFly]

I have a marriage of couple in Oxford as reported per FreeBMD Q1 1859 Oxford 3a 658 :

>>> James Vallis and Harriet Knibbs b1833 - I've tracked a lot of the Vallis family clan in Oxford but can't find hair or hide of this pair.....

There is the one and only local candidate (to my knowledge) - a James Vallis b 1817 who married in 1841 a Susan Gray and then again in 1872 a Sarah Ann Cooper....he couldn't have slipped one in the middle by any chance?? [All the other James Vallis in Oxford/Headington area are born in mid 1700's....]

Of course it could be that another James Vallis from either Wilts or Berks...



TIA - HiFly

[Copper]

I could not find a James married to Harriet anywhere in 1861. I then checked for deaths on Free BMD and found this


1860 June, Vallis Harriett, Oxford 3a 377

Back to the drawing board I am afraid.

[HiFly]

I could not find a James married to Harriet anywhere in 1861. I then checked for deaths on Free BMD and found this


1860 June, Vallis Harriett, Oxford 3a 377

Back to the drawing board I am afraid.

That explains that one....thanks for the effort Copper.....

HiFly

[knibbo2004]

Did you ever figure out for sure if Harriet was the daughter of Edward Knibbs/Fanny Berry, please?
Don

[Pennie]

Just wondering if you sent off for James and Harriet's marriage certificate - this would give their respective fathers' names (and occupations), and might help you to locate them on the 1841 and/or 1851 censuses.

Additionally, if you think James was baptised in Oxford then it may be worth having a search of the Oxford City Baptisms Index (1538-1831) carried out.

Pennie

PS If your problem has been "sorted" since March, then please ignore all the above!

[HiFly]

Just wondering if you sent off for James and Harriet's marriage certificate - this would give their respective fathers' names (and occupations), and might help you to locate them on the 1841 and/or 1851 censuses.

Additionally, if you think James was baptised in Oxford then it may be worth having a search of the Oxford City Baptisms Index (1538-1831) carried out.

Pennie

PS If your problem has been "sorted" since March, then please ignore all the above!

No Pennie - this small family 'group' is still not sorted....and remains an enigma at this stage.

Is the Oxford City Baptisms Index available on-line?

Tx & Regards - HiFly

[HiFly]

Did you ever figure out for sure if Harriet was the daughter of Edward Knibbs/Fanny Berry, please?
Don

No sorry knibbo - I put this 'group' aside when I couldn't find anything on them (as yet).

HiFly

PS Have done a bit of cross-checking for the last hour and I reckon that the Harriet Knibbs b~1833 was d.o. George & Elizabeth Knibbs as per 1841 Census - Residence St Michael, Oxford, Oxfordshire, Source HO107/891/14 F/1 P/39

This would place your Harriett b~1840 as the one as per found on Census 1851 and d.o. Edward and Sophia Knibbs.
Residence Hopcrofts Yard, Deddington, Oxfordshire - Source HO107/1730 Folio/5 Page/3

[knibbo2004]

HiFly - Edward Knibbs/Fanny Berry did have a daughter Harriet b.1833 - see their family page at https://knibbs.family.users.btopenworld.com/fam127.html. So far I haven't managed to find a marriage for her.
The person I would normally go to with such problems is away until December, but I will try to raise it with him when he gets back.
You have me intrigued now.

[Pennie]

The Oxford City Baptisms Index (covering years 1800-1837, and not as in my previous post) is not available on line.

The OFHS will do you a look up (for a very reasonable couple of pounds) - go to "Search Services" on their website.

Pennie