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    dscott
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    Red face Knowles in Widnes

    Looking for any info on James Knowles b. July 1862 and his wife Elizah b. Sept 1871 or child Ethel Knowles b. 1893 April . They lived in Widnes until 1904.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscott
    Looking for any info on James Knowles b. July 1862 and his wife Elizah b. Sept 1871 or child Ethel Knowles b. 1893 April . They lived in Widnes until 1904.
    Before or after 1901? In that year they are at RG 13 3515 folio 112. Check overleaf as there are some more of the family.

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    dscott
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    Default Knowles in Widnes

    In 1904, the family immigrated to Canada. How would I find the information that you listed? (RG 13 3515 folio 112)

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    [b]If you can get to Widnes Library they should have the Census there. If not amongst other places you could try the link below. This site is not free. 1901 census online.

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    dscott
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    Default Lookup for Knowles in the 1881/1891 census

    Would it be possible for someone to lookup James Knowles b. July 1862 or Elizah Knowles b. Sept 1871 in the 1881 or 1891 census for Widnes. I'm also looking for Marriage Registration for these two in the 1890, 1891, or 1892, as well as the birth registration for Ethel Knowles b. April 1893. Any help greatly appreciated.

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    1891 census RG12/3010 folio 124 page 28, 44 West St, Widnes, Lancashire
    James Knowles head widr 28 Alkali labourer, NK [place of birth not known]
    Thomas Knowles son 5, Lancs Widnes
    Mary Knowles serv wid 33 Domestic servant, Lancs St Helens
    Alice Knowles serv's dau 3 Lancs St Helens

    In the 1901 census, James' birth place is given as "Talk o'th Hill". There was a coal mine there which had a major disaster. The village of Talke is 4 miles NW of Newcastle under Lyne.

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    Possible marriage: James Knowles married Eliza Sproson 1892 at Prescot Register Office or Registrar attended (usually means a Roman Catholic or non-conformist marriage at that time). Prescot Registration district covers Farnworth; Hale; Huyton; Kirkby; Much Woolton; Prescot; Prescot & Huyton; Rainford; St. Helens; Whiston; Widnes.
    1881 census RG11/3724 folio 62 page 43, 31 Oakland St, Widnes, Lancs
    James Knowles, boarder, U[nmarried] 18, General labourer, Staffordshire Stafford

    1871 census RG10/3859 f21 p33, 63 Hurst St, Widnes, Lancs
    James Knowles head M 71 Collier unemployed, Lancs, Newton
    Mary " wife M 61, Lancs, Burtonwood
    Edward " grandson U 16, Labourer at soapery, Lancs, Parr
    Mary " grand dau U 11 scholar, Staffs, Burslem
    James " grand son U 9, scholar, Staffs, Balkoth [?]
    Betsey Bates mother in law, W, 81, Lancs Lowton

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscott View Post
    Looking for any info on James Knowles b. July 1862 and his wife Elizah b. Sept 1871 or child Ethel Knowles b. 1893 April . They lived in Widnes until 1904.
    Hello...
    My name is Malcolm (Mac) Knowles. I live in Carleton Place, Ontario, Canada. James Knowles was my grandfather. My father was Edward Knowles (died 1985), brother of Ethel. Another brother was William, another sister was Annie (died in Widnes in the 80's) and a half brother Thomas.
    I've not done a lot of research but have never been able to get back past James, but would like to.

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    Hello mac

    Your family

    1901
    RG13 3515: 112 3
    44 Viaduct St Widnes
    KNOWLES James 38 Chemical Worker Talk oth’hill Staffs
    KNOWLES Eliza 29 Lancs Widnes
    KNOWLES Thomas 15 Lancs Widnes
    KNOWLES Ethel 7 Lancs Widnes
    KNOWLES William 6 Lancs Widnes
    KNOWLES Edward 2 Lancs Widnes

    1891
    44 West Street
    RG12 3010 124 28
    KNOWLES James 28 Chemical Worker Talk oth’hill Staffs
    KNOWLES Thomas 5 Widnes Lancs Son
    KNOWLES Mary Servant
    KNOWLES Alice 3 St Helens

    1881
    RG11 3724 62 43
    31 Oakland St
    HACKNEY George 35
    HACKNEY Ann 31
    HACKNEY William 7
    KNOWLES James 18 Boarder Lab’r Staffordshire


    1871

    RG10 3859 21 33
    Hurst Street
    KNOWLES James 71 Collier unemployed Newton Lancs
    KNOWLES Mary 61 Burtonwood
    KNOWLES Edward 16 Lab’r at Soap Works Parr Lancs
    KNOWLES Mary 11 Scholar Burslem Staffs
    KNOWLES James 9 ScholarTalke Staffs
    BATES Betsey 81 Mother in law Lowton Lancs


    1861
    RG 9 1929 131 7
    119 Hot Lane Burslem Staffs
    KNOWLES Thomas 30 Coal Miner Parr Lancs
    KNOWLES Jane 27 Parr Lancs
    KNOWLES Ann 8 Parr Lancs
    KNOWLES Edward 6 Parr Lancs
    KNOWLES Joseph 2 Parr Lancs
    KNOWLES Mary 8/12 Burslem Staffs

    Just cannot see them in 1881,
    there are baptism possibly marriages records on line familysearch.org
    For post 1837 birth marriage deaths try freebmd.org.uk

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    Hi Mac
    It seems we are both searching for the same ancestors. I'm the grandson of Les and Ruby Owen from Hamilton. Ethel Knowles was my great grandmother. When my great aunt Gwen Buck passed away a few years ago, she left me all the old family photos. I have also been working with Helen Downey in Trenholme, Que. on family history. Contact me by email dalescott1965atgmaildotcom and I will share whatever I have.
    Take care
    Dale
    Last edited by almach; 01-05-2017 at 1:58 AM. Reason: To protect you from spam mail, I have substituted @ for at and . for dot, as per B-G policy.

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