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    Hi Diane,

    I know this is an old thread, but would you happen to have more information on Cordelia Bowden please? I am having difficulty finding a record of her birth, marriage details, or anything about her husband John Morton Rowe. Cordelia and John are my great-great grandparents.
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    Welcome to the British-Genealogy forums Mmcintyre.

    On the new GRO index there is this birth registration
    Cordelia Bowden, mother's maiden name Kevern 1860 March 1/4 registration district Falmouth Union vol 05C page 219

    On FreeBMD Marriage
    John Morton Rowe and Cordelia Bowden March 1/4 1881 Helston reg. dist. vol 5c page 286

    1891 census
    Wendron
    James Rowe 69
    John M. Rowe 25 son Carpenter born Constantine, Cornwall
    Cordelia Rowe 21 dau-in-law

    1861
    RG 9 piece 1569 folio 14 page 1
    James Rowe 47 Oyster dredger Wendron
    Jane Rowe 15 dau Wendron
    Frances A Rowe 11 Wenddron
    John M Rowe 5 Constantine
    John Morton 65 Uncle Ag Lab Wendron

    1851 HO107 piece 1912 folio 124 page 3
    Gweek
    James Rowe 39 Ag Lab Constantine
    Elizabeth Rowe 36 Wendron
    Jane Rowe 5 Wendron
    Frances Ann Rowe 1 Wendron

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    On the GRO index with the middle name wrong spelling

    Birth registration Falmouth Union Sept 1/4 1855 vol 5c page 206
    John Murton Rowe mother's maiden name Murton

    Marriage FreeBMD March1/4 1845 Helston reg.dist. on same page James Rowe and Elizabeth Morton
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    Hi,

    William Leslie Collins b. 21 Apr 1920 Helston, is the grandson I met in 1994, as per my previous message and he is the son of Mildred Rowe m. Thomas Jose Collins.

    Mildred b. 1892 Wendron, is one of ten children of John Morton Rowe m. Cordelia Bowden - she is the sister of my Gt. Grandma, Mary Ann Bowden.

    I have some answers re your queries, which I will put on here later in the day for you .... this is just a message really acknowledging. Would you mind telling me your line of descent from John & Cordelia please?

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    Cordelia Bowden, (daughter of William Bowden b. 1826 who married Mary Kevern b. 1825)

    Cordelia:
    b. 1860 Crowsmeneggus, Perranarworthal, Cornwall, bap. 11 Mar 1860 Gwennap, Cornwall
    d. 17 Apr 1947 Post Office, Gweek, Cornwall - Aged 87 yrs. bur. 19 Apr 1947 Constantine, Cornwall

    Occ: Domestic Work / Sub Postmistress
    Probate Index: 01 May 1947 Bodmin - Effects: 417

    CENSUS APRIL 1851 Ref: HO107/1912/243/23
    Dwelling: 65 Toliarne, Wendron, Cornwall

    William BOWDEN (25) Head Marr Miner b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Mary (25) Wife Marr b. Constantine, Cornwall
    John (1) Son b. Wendron, Cornwall
    __________________________________________

    CENSUS APRIL 1861 Ref: RG9/1564/103/12
    Dwelling: Trewedna, Perranarworthal, Cornwall

    Wm. BAWDEN (36) Head Marr Farmer & Miner b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Mary (36) Wife Marr b. Constantine, Cornwall
    John (11) Son At School b. Wendron, Cornwall
    James (8) Son At School b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Mary Ann (5) Daughter At School b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Elizabeth Jane (3) Daughter At School b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Cordelia (1) Daughter b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    __________________________________________

    CENSUS APRIL 1871 Ref: RG10/2291/53/12
    Dwelling: Trewedna Lane, Perranarworthal, Cornwall

    William BAWDEN (42) Head Marr Farmer of 20 Acres b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Mary (42) Wife Marr b. Constantine, Cornwall
    James (19) Son Single Ag. Lab. b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Mary A. (14) Daughter b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Cordiliah (11) Daughter Scholar b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    George (9) Son Scholar b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Samuel (7) Son Scholar b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Clara (5) Daughter Scholar b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall

    N.B.
    Crowsmeneggus Farm is the place they lived ...... William was a tenant farmer, as I found out in 1995. We went to look at the church in Perranarworthal which was closed, but a notice on the door directed me to a lady living not far away. As luck would have it, her ancestor was the owner and she showed me his very old book, showing details of all his tenants.
    __________________________________________

    CENSUS APRIL 1881 Ref: RG11/2321/16/6
    Dwelling: Gweek, Cornwall

    James ROWE (69) Head Marr Oyster Dredger b. Constantine, Cornwall
    John M. (25) Son Marr Carpenter b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Cordelia (21) Son's Wife Marr Domestic Work b. Perran, Cornwall
    ___________________________________________
    CENSUS APRIL 1891 Ref: RG12/1839/24/7
    Dwelling: Gweek, Cornwall

    James ROWE (79) Head Widower Living on own means b. Constantine, Cornwall
    John M. (35) Son Marr Carpenter b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Cordelia (29) Daughter-in-Law Marr b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    William J. (8) Grandson Scholar b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Clara J. (6) Grandaughter Scholar b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Edith F. (4) Grandaughter b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Leslie J. (3) Grandson b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Hilda M. (5 mths) Grandaughter b. Wendron, Cornwall
    ____________________________________________

    CENSUS MARCH 1901 Ref: RG13/2231/52/16
    Dwelling: Post Office, Gweek, Cornwall

    John M. ROWE (45) Head Marr Carpenter & Sub Pmr. b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Cordelia (40) Wife Marr b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Clara J. (16) Daughter Single Post Office Assistant b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Edith F. (14) Daughter b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Leslie J. (13) Son Scholar b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Hilda M. (10) Daughter Scholar b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Mildred (8) Daughter Scholar b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Agnes B. (7) Daughter Scholar b. Wendron, Cornwall
    George C. (4) Son b. Wendron, Cornwall
    Elsie A. (3) Daughter b. Constantine, Cornwall
    Hedley M. (1) Son b. Constantine, Cornwall
    _____________________________________________

    CENSUS APRIL 1911 Ref: RG14-13903-125
    Dwelling: Post Office, Gweek, Helston, Cornwall

    John Morton ROWE (55) Head Marr Carpenter b. Gweek, Constantine, Cornwall
    Cordelia (50) Wife Marr Sub-Post Mistress & Grocer b. Perranarworthal, Cornwall
    Hilda Mary (20) Daughter Single Assisting in business b. Gweek, Wendron
    Mildred (18) Daughter Single b. Gweek, Wendron, Cornwall
    Agnes Bowden (17) Daughter Single Apprtce. to Dressmaking b. Gweek, Wendron
    Elsie Annie (13) Daughter School b. Gweek, Constantine, Cornwall
    Hedley Morton (11) Son School b. Gweek, Constantine, Cornwall

    Completed years the present marriage has lasted: 30 yrs.
    Children born alive to the present marriage:
    Total Children born alive: 10
    Children still living: 10
    Children who have died: None

    Eight rooms at this address
    Householder's Schedule signed by: John Morton Rowe
    ____________________________________________

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    Hi again,

    Re the marriage of Cordelia & John in 1881 - possibly married at Helston Wesleyan Chapel as per Cordelia's parents? I couldn't find a marriage in Wendron Parish Registers, so you will have to buy the certificate to find out.

    I have a copy of Cordelia's baptism record and her probate index showing the names of the executors, but don't know how to get them on here as an attachment - so if some kind person can tell me how to do it please?

    That's all for today & I'm out all day tomorrow, so will be back on Tuesday with a bit of info about John Morton Rowe.

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    Hi Christina,

    Thanks so much for this information. I thought I'd searched for all possible permutations of John Morton Rowe but evidently not! I wonder what happened to Elizabeth between 1851 and 1861. Thanks again for your help!

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    Hi Diane,

    Thank you so much! I would never have found out about Crowsmeneggus Farm without your help! That information on the Bawdens is also fantastic, thanks. I'd love to see the copy of Cordelia's baptism and her probate index if you can find a way. I'd also love more info about John Morton Rowe if you get a chance, that'd be brilliant. It would have been wonderful to meet William Collins, you must have been tracing. Your family history for many years.

    John and Cordelia were my great-great grandparents, Hedley Morton Rowe my Great-Grandfather, and his daughter is my grandmother who is 93.

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    This is copied from my family tree programme - I assume your Grandmother is Eileen?

    Descendants of Hedley Morton Rowe

    HEDLEY MORTON ROWE was born Bef. 17 Oct 1899 in Constantine, Cornwall, and died Dec Qtr. 1935 in Morpeth Reg. District - Aged 36 yrs.. He married FLORENCE URETTA BEW Mar Qtr. 1922 in Kensington Reg. District. She was born Bef. 08 Nov 1900 in 135 Tavistock Cres. London, and died Aft. 1924.

    More About FLORENCE URETTA BEW:
    Baptism: 08 Nov 1900, Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Kensington & Chelsea

    Children of HEDLEY ROWE and FLORENCE BEW are:
    i. JOAN B. ROWE, b. Jun Qtr. 1922, Wandsworth Reg. District.
    ii. EILEEN M. ROWE, b. Mar Qtr. 1924, Headington Reg. District.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmcintyre View Post
    Hi Christina,

    Thanks so much for this information. I thought I'd searched for all possible permutations of John Morton Rowe but evidently not! I wonder what happened to Elizabeth between 1851 and 1861. Thanks again for your help!
    Hi
    On the 1861census where John is with his children but no wife Elizabeth it clearly states he is married.
    This may be her
    1861 RG 9 Piece 1573 Folio 147 Page 3
    Lizard Town,Landewednark
    Sampson Hill 38 wheelwright employing 2 apprentices, Landewednark
    Frances Hill 42 Wendron Dressmaker
    Joseph H Hill 10 son Landewednark
    Jane Hill 3 dau Landewednark
    Elizabeth Rowe 46 Married Visitor Wendron

    Marriage June 1/4 1850 Helston reg district Frances Morton and Samuel Hill. So Elizabeth is visiting her sister.
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