Emma Elizabeth East born 1852

[patk]

Hello : I am writing to ask help over the birth of Emma Elizabeth East, the wife of Edward Avery. I found a baptism for her on 2nd December 1852 at St. John the Evangelist, Kensel Green, Westminster in the London C of E Births and Marriages, 1813-1906. Her date of birth appears to be given in the left-hand column but is, to me, illegible. I have been unable to find a birth for her, however. There is a birth for a child of that name in the first quarter of 1853, but the date is clearly wrong. There is another birth of an "Emma East" in the third quarter of 1852; this seems chronologically correct, but the place of birth is Greenwich which is not Kensel Green, and Kensel Green seems to be the correct place as it appears in verifiable records for her elsewhere. Could Greenwich be connected to Kensel Green in some way? Any help would be much appreciated.

[christanel]

I read her birth date as Oct 26 and her baptism date as Dec 2. The squiggle before the 2 for Dec I think is more likely to be an 'r' for the last letter of December.
If you look at the baptism date for Frances Hannah Pettifer further down the page it is clearly Dec 9th.
Christina

[christanel]

There is this birth registration on the GRO index for a female East with no first and middle names given but is with the mother's maiden name Pearce.

East mmn Pearce December 1/4 1852 registration district St Luke's Chelsea vol 1a page 151

I don't seem to be able to bring it up on FreeBMD so whether it is me doing something silly or it has been missed on the site I don't know.

Christina

[patk]

Many thanks Christina. Two very useful replies. The second, in re. to the GRO index, is spot on. Emma's mother's maiden name is indeed Pearce, so this has to be her. I'll investigate further, but if necessary I'll need to send off for a copy of her birth certificate. Marvelous work! Thanks again, Patrick.

[Pam Downes]

There is this birth registration on the GRO index for a female East with no first and middle names given but is with the mother's maiden name Pearce.

East mmn Pearce December 1/4 1852 registration district St Luke's Chelsea vol 1a page 151

I don't seem to be able to bring it up on FreeBMD so whether it is me doing something silly or it has been missed on the site I don't know.

Christina

Brilliant spot, Christina.

Firstly, I agree with you about Emma's birthdate being 26 October.

I looked for William East, a tailor, with wife Emma, in the 1851 census to see if there was any connection to Greenwich, and found them living in St Luke's parish, Chelsea with three children, including a Harriet Emily, aged 1 month. She was easy to find on the GRO website
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/c...ates/login.asp
mother's maiden name, Pearce.
The other children , Clara Emma, and Sarah Ann, also have Pearce as mother's maiden name in their birth registrations.

I have a feeling that the reason you can't find any East birth registrations in December quarter 1852 is because for some reason that page (and possibly one or two more) are missing from the pages from which FreeBMD was transcribed.
Start here https://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Click 'view images'.
Then births, 1852, December quarter, and letter E, clicking 'submit query' after each one.
Page 1009 ends with Alice Easom (on FreeBMD), though I think it's Eason.
Page 1010 begins with Elizabeth Easter.

FreeBMD has East registrations for every quarter between March 1859 and December 1854, except December 1852, so there has to be at least one missing page.
I will see if there's a way I can alert FreeBMD to this discrepancy.

Updated 3.48am.
Have sent a message which hopefully FreeBMD will receive.

[patk]

Pam, many thanks to you too for going above and beyond. This is marvelous information, and I've been able to profit from it already by checking on Emma's many children and her own siblings, the latter being a bit of a headache, although now not so much! Again, my thanks.