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    Default Query - uniform of the 18th Royal Hussars

    Yesterday my aunt sent me a photograph of my Grandmother's older brother in uniform.

    Family lore says he served in the second Boer War and I believe I found information about his enlistment on Ancestry to support this. I have not accessed the full document but the name, place of birth, occupation and approximate year of birth are correct.

    He was George Charles Layton. Born 3 April 1880 in Finchley, Middlesex. He was a groom both before enlistment and again in 1906 according to his marriage certificate.

    His short service enlistment year was 1899. The regiment was "Hussar of the line" and his regimental number 4564. He was 18 at the time of enlistment.

    I think he may have been in the 18th Royal Hussars assuming the Boer War story is true. I tried to find a match for the uniform in the photo and have found many similar but nothing exactly the same. A close match is a Hussar officer's tunic for formal occasions.

    So then a couple of things didn't add up to me. He has what look like sergeants stripes on his sleeve. If he was a short term soldier I doubt he'd have been promoted and if he were so able, would he have gone back to being a groom again so quickly? Secondly he's wearing a medal. I tried to find a match and found nothing like it. The ribbon has red and white horizontal stripes. All medal images I found have vertical stripes.

    I wondered whether soldiers ever exaggerated their importance in portrait photographs in the same way that people used to do with their occupations on official documents.

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    The 18th (Queen Mary's Own) Hussars service number looks a little low for 1899.

    4564 joined on 24th August 1896
    4623 joined on 1st October 1897
    4691 joined on 20th June 1898
    4801 joined on 13th february 1899

    This site heips you trace numbers and also small pictures of the regiment,

    https://
    armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/p/index.html


    Keith

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    Thanks Keith.

    Maybe the Boer War story is another one of those family fables.

    I'll check out the site you suggest. I should be very interested to discover which unit he was in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharonKef View Post
    Thanks Keith.

    Maybe the Boer War story is another one of those family fables.

    I'll check out the site you suggest. I should be very interested to discover which unit he was in.
    Hi Sharon, If you have an All Access Membership on Ancestry, have you tried using the Forces War Records Photograph and Documents Specialist?

    https://uk.forceswarrecords.com/expert

    Worth a try, if you wish to use it.

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    His 4 page record on FMP has him attesting 23 Jan 1899 and posted to the 7th (Q.O) Hussars on that date..

    His period in S. Africa reads 30 Nov 1901 to 5th Dec 1905 (4yrs 6 days)

    Under Campaigns the original entry "S. Africa 1901 - 1902" has been amended to "1899 - 1902".

    He transferred to the army reserve 23 Jan 1907 to 22 Jan 1911 (4yes)
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    That solves it.

    Thank you so much for the information.

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    Thank you.

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