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    Many thamks to all for taking the time to search and provide the info. I foresee an intense session at the library coming soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grisel View Post
    If I have the correct family they are in Woofferton Shropshire in 1851, this times as Haines. Mary born "Stoks say"
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    I am having trouble finding this, could you give the reference please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macwil View Post
    I am having trouble finding this, could you give the reference please.
    Sorry,should have given it.
    HO107 piece 1982 folio384 p22.

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    Thanks. I've found it!
    No wonder it was elusive A have it transcribed as HAINER. I have added a correction.

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    Looking at the 3 census Mary Anne appears to have been born between 7 Apr and 6 Jun 1837 so she won't be in the Register of Births as that only started in July '37.
    I haven't found a baptism on A, but their coverage of Shropshire parishes is poor and transcripts only, so I wasn't really expecting to find one.

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    Here is a bit of guesswork- could be wrong!!
    A Maria Butcher married a Thomas James, Stokesay 1834. Children to Thomas and Maria - Mary bp May 1837,(I think this could be your Mary) Eliza,1838, Jane 1840.

    Marriage of John Haines and Mary James 1841.
    John may have been married previously to Ann Gwilliam, Hopesay 1828. Children Jane b1829 d1830 and Ann 1831 Hopesay. Wife Ann died I think in 1833. Ann is with John and Maria in 1841.
    I can't see registrations for Mary, Eliza or Jane James. They were baptised as children of Thomas and Maria but it is possible that they were John's.I don't know where Thomas went.I can't see a local death.

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    Thank you, grisel. That would explain why I kept finding baptisms for children with parents Thomas & Maria, I dismissed them, oops.
    This family are proving to be extremely elusive on A, I can't find them after 1861, apart from Mary Ann that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macwil View Post
    Thank you, grisel. That would explain why I kept finding baptisms for children with parents Thomas & Maria, I dismissed them, oops.
    This family are proving to be extremely elusive on A, I can't find them after 1861, apart from Mary Ann that is.
    In 1871 I think Maria is in Ashford Carbonell Ludlow with daughter Jane and son Thomas.RG10 p2726 f8 p10

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    It would seem to be the same vicar in Stokesay who married Thomas and Maria, baptised their children then baptised John and Maria's son John. I would imagine that he would know both Thomas James and John Haines ?

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    Once again, Thank you grisel.
    I'll check thimgs out.
    It looks like I'll have to subscribe to FMP again, A are pretty useless where Shropshire records are concerned.

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