I am extracting the Slaters from this RC register, in the form of the Catholic Register Society's printed transcription. I can manage the usual Latin but there are some interesting additions to some entries.
Can anyone make any suggestions about this one?
Anno Dni 1772 die 2° mensis Septembris ego R. Banister Sac. Miss. ad capellam B.V.M in Fernyhalgh baptizavi infantem masculum pridie natum ex Joanne & Helena Slater catholicis conjugibus in Ribbleton: cui nomen Jacobus est impositum: Patrini Hugo et Elizabetha Edmonson Infantis consanguinei in 2° gradu.
I can see it is the baptism on 2nd September 1772 of James son of John and Helen Slater of Ribbleton, godparents Hugh and Elizabeth Edmonson. I think "pridie natum" is "born the day before" but what about that consaguinity?
Google translate suggests it means “a child of consanguinity in the second degree”.
Google adds “(ii) Second-degree relatives include an individual's grandparents, grandchildren, uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces, and half-siblings. (iii) Third-degree relatives include an individual's great-grandparents, great grandchildren, great uncles/aunts, and first cousins.”
So does that mean that the baby’s parents, John and Helen Slater, were closer than cousins, perhaps uncle and niece?
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14-11-2023, 1:27 PM #1
Baptisms Fernyhalgh, Lancs, mysterious Latin
14-11-2023, 3:42 PM #2
Barbara, just an idea. Perhaps it means the Godparents were blood relatives via an ancestor in common as a Grandparent.Alma
14-11-2023, 4:19 PM #3
Good thinking. More complex Latin sites suggest "infantis" is "of a child". So perhaps the godparents of the child were the consanguineous ones, the child's uncle and aunt.
[The punctuation is odd - no full stop or colon after Edmonson, but capital I on Infantis]
14-11-2023, 7:12 PM #4Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
14-11-2023, 8:58 PM #5
15-11-2023, 12:18 PM #6
Thank you both. The chart (from the University of Alabama)suggests 2nd degree consanguinity is brother/sister or grandparent/grandchild. Something to work on, anyway, as other Slater relationships reveal themselves.