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    Default Baptisms Fernyhalgh, Lancs, mysterious Latin

    I am extracting the Slaters from this RC register, in the form of the Catholic Register Society's printed transcription. I can manage the usual Latin but there are some interesting additions to some entries.
    Can anyone make any suggestions about this one?

    Anno Dni 1772 die 2° mensis Septembris ego R. Banister Sac. Miss. ad capellam B.V.M in Fernyhalgh baptizavi infantem masculum pridie natum ex Joanne & Helena Slater catholicis conjugibus in Ribbleton: cui nomen Jacobus est impositum: Patrini Hugo et Elizabetha Edmonson Infantis consanguinei in 2° gradu.

    I can see it is the baptism on 2nd September 1772 of James son of John and Helen Slater of Ribbleton, godparents Hugh and Elizabeth Edmonson. I think "pridie natum" is "born the day before" but what about that consaguinity?

    Google translate suggests it means “a child of consanguinity in the second degree”.
    Google adds “(ii) Second-degree relatives include an individual's grandparents, grandchildren, uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces, and half-siblings. (iii) Third-degree relatives include an individual's great-grandparents, great grandchildren, great uncles/aunts, and first cousins.”

    So does that mean that the baby’s parents, John and Helen Slater, were closer than cousins, perhaps uncle and niece?

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    Barbara, just an idea. Perhaps it means the Godparents were blood relatives via an ancestor in common as a Grandparent.
    Alma

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    Good thinking. More complex Latin sites suggest "infantis" is "of a child". So perhaps the godparents of the child were the consanguineous ones, the child's uncle and aunt.
    [The punctuation is odd - no full stop or colon after Edmonson, but capital I on Infantis]

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    Chart of consnguinity/relationship
    https://www.uab.edu/humanresources/h...ER%20CHART.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by almach View Post
    Barbara, just an idea. Perhaps it means the Godparents were blood relatives via an ancestor in common as a Grandparent.
    Quote Originally Posted by christanel View Post
    Chart of consnguinity/relationship
    https://www.uab.edu/humanresources/h...ER%20CHART.pdf

    Christina
    Therefore, it would be via an ancestor in common.
    Alma

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    Thank you both. The chart (from the University of Alabama)suggests 2nd degree consanguinity is brother/sister or grandparent/grandchild. Something to work on, anyway, as other Slater relationships reveal themselves.
    Barbara

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