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    Default John Shannon Born about 1765 in Ireland ?

    Hello My 4 times great grandfather Was born in Ireland i suppose in about 1765.

    He died in August 30 Denmark 1831. Number 53 in the page.

    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...80320,73946411

    Here Wrong spelling Denmark census 1801 .

    https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1124533

    Here he gets Married in April 8 Denmark Everdrup it looks like he was from Ireland. Age 30. Down in the right Corner

    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...49258,24679155

    Here his name is Jack.

    There has been talked about his name could be Dion?

    Here family History-

    History
    The SCHANDY family formerly from Risör, a small fisherman port in southern Norway, has been greatly entailed with the sea since its origins, forging captains, ship owners, seamen and tradesmen in all the generations. The Schandy name goes back to the XVI Century with Irish Dion SHANNON (1773), whose son THOMAS DION SCHANDY emigrated to Risör, Norway.

    Is it Possible to trace John/Jack Shannons family or were in Ireland he was Born.

    Mikkel.

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    I found this on. Irish genealogy.ie


    Not too sure it’s your people but the fathers name caught my eye.


    DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. NICHOLAS

    Baptism of JOANNES SHANNON of N/R on 26 September 1791



    Name JOANNES SHANNON
    Date of Birth N/R N/R N/R
    Address N/R
    Father DIONYSII SHANNON ****
    Mother ALICIAE KEVIN

    Sponsor 1 JACOBO MURRAY
    Sponsor 2 MARIA COPELAND
    Priest RICARDO SHERIDAN

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    Joannes is that a Female?.

    Here A Son born Thomas in 1809 on the Right Page Top.

    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...51195,25107500

    Here John Shannon calls himself Thomas Shannon wrong Spelling in his lastname.

    A Son Born Called David in 1807 March 30.

    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...49259,24679233

    Here John Shannon calls himself Jack.

    mikkel

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkel View Post
    Joannes is that a Female?


    Here A Son born Thomas in 1809 on the Right Page Top.

    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...51195,25107500

    Here John Shannon calls himself Thomas Shannon wrong Spelling in his lastname.


    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...49259,24679233

    Here John Shannon calls himself Jack.
    I think from your first post you realise that John is sometimes Jack. Just to clarify, in English Jack has traditionally been the short or pet form of John.

    You've also hit on the issue of Latin names, which are used in Roman Catholic registers. Most of these are fairly obvious, but sometimes there's more than one English equivalent for a name in Latin. And in Latin, the ending of a name changes to reflect its grammatical case (nominative, genitive etc).

    The names that Pamela has listed, with their equivalents, are:

    Joannes - John
    Dionysii (Dionysius) - Dennis/Denis
    Aliciae (Alicia) - Alice/Alicia
    Jacobo (Jacobus) - James/Jacob
    Maria - Mary/Maria
    Ricardo (Ricardus) - Richard

    Finally, don't worry too much about the exact spelling of surnames. They are frequently found with different spellings, and where someone has gone to another country it's almost inevitable that if they don't know the exact spelling themselves, the people in the new country will make a best guess. 'Schanon' in the Danish extract seems a pretty good attempt, and probably just reflects that the same sound is represented by 'sh' in English and 'sch' in Danish (I think).

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    But John Shannon was born in about 1765 Dead 1831.

    Baptism of JOANNES SHANNON of N/R on 26 September 1791

    Pamela found this one But my John was born about 1765?

    So Dion would or Could be Dennis/Denis.

    Will it be possible to find the right John Shannon or to locate him or his Family Parents.

    Here Jonhns Marriage April 8 1803. it says Age 30 then he would have been born in 1773 not 1765.

    https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/b...49258,24679155


    Right page corner

    Could he have been arriving by Ship in the 1790 ties.

    He worked in Denmark for this man Charles August Selby.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_August_Selby

    Could you find some John Shannons born about 1765 that could have been mine John Shannon.

    Mikkel.

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    I assume John Shannon was Roman Catholic. Very few RC parishes in Ireland have records for the mid 1700s. There are a few in large cities like Dublin and Cork but most rural parishes didn’t keep records till the 1820s or later in some cases. So any search is going to be very hit and miss.
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