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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesley Robertson View Post
    I can't find the couple in a census search for England.
    Two things that you may have checked - a marriage in Ireland and the spelling Houlahan which comes up often...
    I spend most of my time in research in Scotland, and I have noticed that accents often affect the recording of names. People often said their name to whoever was making the record, and he wrote what he thought he heard. Irish accents and an English clerk could have caused complications.
    Yes, there are many variations in the Holahan name. In the U.S. census records I have found it spelled Holahan, Hulahan, and Hallihan. I have also done searches using the phonetic spelling option.

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    Different name but there is a possible marriage in Manchester 1857 where a James Horan and an Ellen Howard appear on the same page in the Free BMD website. Lancs OPC have baptisms of Catherine Horan 1859 and Ann Horan 1864 at St Patrick's Collyhurst Manchester. Parents James Horan and Ellen Howard.
    Do Catherine and Ann appear in your family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grisel View Post
    Different name but there is a possible marriage in Manchester 1857 where a James Horan and an Ellen Howard appear on the same page in the Free BMD website. Lancs OPC have baptisms of Catherine Horan 1859 and Ann Horan 1864 at St Patrick's Collyhurst Manchester. Parents James Horan and Ellen Howard.
    Do Catherine and Ann appear in your family?
    I now see that jomot1 had already found this information on a previous thread. Did you ever send for that marriage certificate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grisel View Post
    I now see that jomot1 had already found this information on a previous thread. Did you ever send for that marriage certificate?
    This is the previous thread.
    https://www.british-genealogy.com/fo...han-Brick-Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by pholahan View Post
    Thank you for that suggestion. I have no idea what Parish in which they would have been married, or even if they were married in England. Both my 2 Grandparents were born in Ireland. I haven't found any record of their marriage in Ireland and family lore says my GGrandfather was born in Manchester, so I am searching in Lancashire in the hopes of finding a matching record.
    Have you looked on a map to see how near, or far away, their birthplaces were? Although people travelled further from home than we tend to think if the places were some way from each then there's a likelihood that Ellen and James met when they came to England.

    How long ago did you look for a marriage for them in Ireland? New records are being placed online almost every day so you could look on Monday and find nothing and literally the next day - bingo! I know some online Irish records were updated recently but I can't remember which ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    This is the previous thread.
    https://www.british-genealogy.com/fo...han-Brick-Wall


    How long ago did you look for a marriage for them in Ireland? New records are being placed online almost every day so you could look on Monday and find nothing and literally the next day - bingo! I know some online Irish records were updated recently but I can't remember which ones.
    I have found a marriage record of James Horan and Ellen Howard that made me hopeful so I ordered the certificate. Date of the marriage was June 1857 and James' father's name was George, but Ellen's father was named Patrick. My 2 grandmother's father was named James.

    I also found a birth record for George Horne and ordered the certificate. Date of birth was June 1858, which falls in the range of birth years I have previously found. Father's name listed as James Horne and Mother listed as Ellen Horne (formerly Howard), so this is very possibly my George's birth certificate, which would be a major breakthrough for me. He was born in the Ascots section of Manchester, near St. Patricks Church in Collyhurst.

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