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    Default Looking to identify this medal that says Here

    Hi all,

    I found this medal in a stack of stuff from my late mother's house and I'm hoping that one of you can help me to identify it. The thing is heavy -- it doesn't feel like something you'd pick up in a souvenir shop. The braided neckless has too loops per joint and underneath the crest, it says simply "Herefordshire". I've looked hard for the crest, but so far have not been able to find anything like it. Please take a look at the attachment. Does anybody recognize what this might be?

    Thanks for your help!
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    Thanks, Christina. I thought I had it right with the URL. let me try again.

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    The heraldic figure in the centre appears to be very similar to one on this site https://www.bosburyhistoryresource.o...fordshire.html
    Number 25, BIDDULPH family of Ledbury Pl.6

    Could the lion be a reference to the lion passant in the city of Hereford's coat of arms. https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/herald...title=Hereford

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    Several other families also used the eagle in their arms. The most similar is the Strong family of the Chase, Ross #388 in the first site Christina mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macwil View Post
    Several other families also used the eagle in their arms. The most similar is the Strong family of the Chase, Ross #388 in the first site Christina mentioned.

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    Thanks for this Malcolm. I didn't work my down to #388. I wonder if either of these families names are familiar to the poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by christanel View Post
    Thanks for this Malcolm. I didn't work my down to #388. I wonder if either of these families names are familiar to the poster

    Christina
    I don't recognize any of them yet, but I'm digging. My stepfather had a first wife who died early in their marriage, so this artifact may be from her family. My stepfather was a bit of a history buff and old book collector, so if it was historically significant to her family, it wouldn't surprise me that he'd kept it.

    But even if I identify the family, what do I have here? Is it possibly historic in some way? Is it ceremonial? Does it look like it may have come from some time period?

    It looks like the lion was braised (not TIG welded) onto the base and then the badge braised to the lion, but I see no evidence that it was coated after braising.

    I'd never seen this before coming upon it in one of my mother's boxes, so I'm really curious as to what this is.

    Thanks for all your help, folks!
    John

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    Well 388 STRONG (Straunge, Storange) family of The Chase, Ross Pl.8 looks really close. Similar coloring, the number of talons is different (4 vs. 3), and the number of feathers.

    A couple of other questions then:
    - How much variability is acceptable for it to be considered a match?
    - Am I correct that "The Chase, Ross Pl.8" points to a place? If so, How do I read the "Pl.8" portion?
    - I found this Wikipedia article that references the Strong family as well as a "Chase" home that was turned into a hotel. Could this be a good reference? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase,_Ross-on-Wye

    Thanks again, all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnkgerken View Post
    Well 388 STRONG (Straunge, Storange) family of The Chase, Ross Pl.8 looks really close. Similar coloring, the number of talons is different (4 vs. 3), and the number of feathers.

    A couple of other questions then:
    - How much variability is acceptable for it to be considered a match?
    - Am I correct that "The Chase, Ross Pl.8" points to a place? If so, How do I read the "Pl.8" portion?
    - I found this Wikipedia article that references the Strong family as well as a "Chase" home that was turned into a hotel. Could this be a good reference? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase,_Ross-on-Wye

    Thanks again, all.
    John
    Read what's written at the top of the page of the link that Christina found, and your questions should be answered.
    HARC is Hereford Archives and Record Centre. For a fee they should be able to send you a copy of what's written in book about the Strong family.
    Though as you know the title and author of the book you could always try searching for a copy on the internet. Try the Wayback Machine and Google books for starters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnkgerken View Post
    How do I read the "Pl.8" portion?
    Pl.8 (Plate 8) refers to a photograph of a page of heraldic designs which are listed lower down that page under 'Links'. click on number 8.

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