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    Lightbulb Another ancestor at a brick-wall

    Name: Lucy Handy or Handley (Sons birth certificate has her surname as Handley while her marriage certificate has her surname as Handy)

    Born: 1816
    Location Of Birth: Toddington, Gloucestershire, England

    Date Of Marriage: 19th November 1840
    Location Of Marriage: Newbold Pacey, Warwickshire, England

    Fathers Name: Joseph Day

    Date Of Death: October 1890
    Location Of Death: Newbold Pacey, Warwickshire, England

    Sources:

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    search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2445&h=11013303&ssrc=pt&tid=1 74043544&pid=362282821819&usePUB=true&_gl=1*hy9lmx *_ga*MTM3MDI5MjU1MC4xNjE3MjEwMjQ0*_ga_4PXYE4RLH1*M TYzOTc2NDM1Mi43LjEuMTYzOTc2NzM1Ny4w

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    search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8767&h=21396418&ssrc=pt&tid=1 74043544&pid=362282821819&usePUB=true&_gl=1*hy9lmx *_ga*MTM3MDI5MjU1MC4xNjE3MjEwMjQ0*_ga_4PXYE4RLH1*M TYzOTc2NDM1Mi43LjEuMTYzOTc2NzM1Ny4w

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    ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/24238535:7619?tid=174043544&pid=362282821819&hid=1 046774499997&_phsrc=jFg13934&_phstart=default

    i am looking for info on her earlier life and how come she has the Handy surname? is it maiden or from another marriage why is her father's name Joseph Day and her surname aint Day. Any info on her parents as just fathers name is pretty bleak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suurpe View Post
    Name: Lucy Handy or Handley (Sons birth certificate has her surname as Handley while her marriage certificate has her surname as Handy)

    Born: 1816
    Location Of Birth: Toddington, Gloucestershire, England

    Date Of Marriage: 19th November 1840
    Location Of Marriage: Newbold Pacey, Warwickshire, England

    Fathers Name: Joseph Day

    Date Of Death: October 1890
    Location Of Death: Newbold Pacey, Warwickshire, England

    Sources:

    https://
    search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2445&h=11013303&ssrc=pt&tid=1 74043544&pid=362282821819&usePUB=true&_gl=1*hy9lmx *_ga*MTM3MDI5MjU1MC4xNjE3MjEwMjQ0*_ga_4PXYE4RLH1*M TYzOTc2NDM1Mi43LjEuMTYzOTc2NzM1Ny4w

    https://
    search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8767&h=21396418&ssrc=pt&tid=1 74043544&pid=362282821819&usePUB=true&_gl=1*hy9lmx *_ga*MTM3MDI5MjU1MC4xNjE3MjEwMjQ0*_ga_4PXYE4RLH1*M TYzOTc2NDM1Mi43LjEuMTYzOTc2NzM1Ny4w

    https://www.
    ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/24238535:7619?tid=174043544&pid=362282821819&hid=1 046774499997&_phsrc=jFg13934&_phstart=default

    i am looking for info on her earlier life and how come she has the Handy surname? is it maiden or from another marriage why is her father's name Joseph Day and her surname aint Day. Any info on her parents as just fathers name is pretty bleak
    On the marriage certificate to Samuel Ell (?) she is stated as being a spinster.

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    There appears to be a birth certificate available for their son George b 1841.

    What is shown for the mother's name and previous names?

    You do have the birth certificate, don't you?

    So many questions can be answered from readily obtainable documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Goodey View Post
    There appears to be a birth certificate available for their son George b 1841.

    What is shown for the mother's name and previous names?

    You do have the birth certificate, don't you?

    So many questions can be answered from readily obtainable documents.
    Cancel that! I think You say you have the certificate and her maiden name is shown as Handley. So that suggests her mother was unmarried or she married again. Are there any Hand(l)ey / Day marriages around in the right place at the right time?

    BTW it's not unusual for a bride to provide her stepfather's name rather than her biological father's name.

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    The marriage "cert" is on line. However, the Vicar, Joseph Golding, continued to use the pre. 1 July 1837 marriage form beyond that date until Lucy's marriage. Hers was the last - although there were blanks still in the register. Had joseph finally twigged? So, what went through to the GRO?.
    Disappointed - had hoped to spot Joseph Day's occupation.
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Wasn't Joseph Day stated as being a Labourer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suemalings View Post
    Wasn't Joseph Day stated as being a Labourer?
    Stated where? - not on the "cert" I checked on line.
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Quote Originally Posted by helachau View Post
    Stated where? - not on the "cert" I checked on line.
    Re checked FMP - and now see the proper cert!
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Quote Originally Posted by helachau View Post
    Re checked FMP - and now see the proper cert!
    As Lucy was stated as being a servant, I suspect that she was not born in the same place as the wedding took place or even in that county. On Ancestry is a tree showing that Lucy Handy was born abt 1816 in Toddington, Gloucestershire. There is also a photograph of George Ell, the son.

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    George married (I think( Mary Jane Rose in 1872. She was from Birmingham. He was in the Police Force

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