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    Where does “Gifford” come from?

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    Where does “Gifford” come from?
    There is no equivalent to the letter H in the Russian alphabet. An H in an English name is commonly transliterated into Cyrillic as the letter which is equivalent to the hard G in English (as in "gone" not "gene"). Transliterating backwards, an H would become G.

    Just a thought.

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    My previous message is a muddled way of saying that HEAFORD and GIFFORD could look the same when transliterated into Cyrillic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiegel View Post
    Elizabeth Ann Heaford, daughter of Joseph Heaford and Sarah Elizabeth, was born 5 Feb 1829 and christened 9 Apr 1829 in the British Chaplaincy, St Petersburg, Russia.

    Joseph Heaford married Sarah Elizabeth Jackson on 18 Apr 1827 in Bosbury, Hereford, England.
    Thank you very much! You 've been very helpful !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Goodey View Post
    There is no equivalent to the letter H in the Russian alphabet. An H in an English name is commonly transliterated into Cyrillic as the letter which is equivalent to the hard G in English (as in "gone" not "gene"). Transliterating backwards, an H would become G.

    Just a thought.
    That's right. Thank you for the clarification. Indeed, if it were not for the memoirs of an ancestor, we would consider that the surname is written as Gifford, which, as it turned out, is not correct. The correct spelling of the surname is Heaford.

    I will now try to find the descendants of this family.

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    There are many mentions of Joseph on the internet eg Family search, newspaper reports etc

    Joseph was a widower at the time of his marriage to Sarah Elisabeth.He was first married in1822 at Odessa to Mary Haughton Turner.

    Siblings of Elisabeth Ann include Alfred 1833, Thomas Edward 1836 and Albert Samuel 1840.Baptised Odessa.
    http:
    //kurtofgerolstein.blogspot.com/2020/12/a-photo-from-oudh-or-way-down-upon.html?m=1
    Above website has info and a photo of Thomas Edward.I have broken the link per forum rules.

    In 1851 British census Joseph and Thomas are in Edinburgh, Scotland.(You can see for free on freecen website)
    In 1861 Joseph, Sarah, Albert and a sister in law Mary A Heaford are in Lambeth Surrey (south London). Ref RG09 piece349 folio2 page 5.
    Joseph died in 1864.
    Sarah died in 1888 in London.She was still in Lambeth in 1881 census. The census details are on various subscription sites.

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    Thank you, Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grisel View Post
    There are many mentions of Joseph on the internet eg Family search, newspaper reports etc

    Joseph was a widower at the time of his marriage to Sarah Elisabeth.He was first married in1822 at Odessa to Mary Haughton Turner.

    Siblings of Elisabeth Ann include Alfred 1833, Thomas Edward 1836 and Albert Samuel 1840.Baptised Odessa.
    http:
    //kurtofgerolstein.blogspot.com/2020/12/a-photo-from-oudh-or-way-down-upon.html?m=1
    Above website has info and a photo of Thomas Edward.I have broken the link per forum rules.

    In 1851 British census Joseph and Thomas are in Edinburgh, Scotland.(You can see for free on freecen website)
    In 1861 Joseph, Sarah, Albert and a sister in law Mary A Heaford are in Lambeth Surrey (south London). Ref RG09 piece349 folio2 page 5.
    Joseph died in 1864.
    Sarah died in 1888 in London.She was still in Lambeth in 1881 census. The census details are on various subscription sites.
    Thank you so much for your link and the information provided!

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