Thomas Cronin Father John

[Pam Downes]

Hi im looking for info on the main lineage of Cronin please! Any info on Johns father and so on please!

You've got John, born c 1838, on the 1871 census and others, so you now need to search for him in the 1861, 1851, and 1841 census, where he should be with his parents in at least 1841, and hopefully 1851 as well.

It would also be advisable to send for a copy of his marriage certificate, where hopefully he will name his father and his father's occupation. (Though I'll admit that something such as 'general labourer' is not the most helpful of occupations!) Post # 17 has basic details of John's marriage registration. District, volume and page number can be found on FreeBMD.
Order from the GRO. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/c...ates/login.asp

Pam

[toffeetower]

Thanks Pam

[toffeetower]

I noticed John living in 7 Nelson street in 1871
and think this is them in workhouse as its says John with W and 6 c
Which I assume is wife and 6 children and Nelson street

Name: John Cronin
Residence Age: 31
Record Type: Residence
Birth Date: abt 1841
Residence Date: 1872-1876
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales
Residence Poor Law Union: Cardiff

[toffeetower]

I noticed John living in 7 Nelson street in 1871
and think this is them in workhouse as its says John with W and 6 c
Which I assume is wife and 6 children and Nelson street

Name: John Cronin
Residence Age: 31
Record Type: Residence
Birth Date: abt 1841
Residence Date: 1872-1876
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales
Residence Poor Law Union: Cardiff

Have I quoted this properly? Dont know if there page number's or anything else I
need to share with you?

[almach]

I don't think you have this 1861 census?

1861: John 22, Elizabeth 24 and Mary Ann 1 in Cardiff St Mary (indexed as CRONAN)
RG9; Piece: 4036; Folio: 73; Page: 30

[toffeetower]

I don't think you have this 1861 census?

1861: John 22, Elizabeth 24 and Mary Ann 1 in Cardiff St Mary (indexed as CRONAN)
RG9; Piece: 4036; Folio: 73; Page: 30

Thanks

[Pam Downes]

Have I quoted this properly? Dont know if there page number's or anything else I
need to share with you?

Although our T&Cs do not allow you to post a direct link to a commercial website, you are allowed to say which website you're using and to give the name of the dataset (e.g. England, Liverpool workhouse registers 1837-1852) in which you found the record so that FMs can easily find the record as well.

Pam

[toffeetower]

Although our T&Cs do not allow you to post a direct link to a commercial website, you are allowed to say which website you're using and to give the name of the dataset (e.g. England, Liverpool workhouse registers 1837-1852) in which you found the record so that FMs can easily find the record as well.

Pam

I used ancestry and it was on Glamorgan, Wales,workhouse registers 1850-1920
Page 38 outdoor paupers parish of st Mary's
Number on list is 782

[toffeetower]

I used ancestry and it was on Glamorgan, Wales,workhouse registers 1850-1920
Page 38 outdoor paupers parish of st Mary's
Number on list is 782

Cardiff
Abstracts, Lists of Paupers and Year Books
1872-1876

Glamorgan Archives; Cardiff, Wales; Records of Poor Relief

Description

Date Range: 1872-1876

Source Information

Ancestry.com. Glamorgan, Wales, Workhouse Registers, 1850-1920 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2021.
Original data:Records of Poor Relief. Cardiff, Wales: Glamorgan Archives: Archifau Morgannwg.

Source Description

This collection contains workhouse registers for Glamorgan, Wales from 1850 to 1920.

[Pam Downes]

Without wishing to be picky,we didn't need 'more information' - just dataset Glamorgan, Wales, Workhouse Registers, 1850-1920 on Ancestry.

Did you note the title and the column headings at the top of the page? Outdoor relief meant that the applicant was given funds to remain at home.
I don't know how much you know about the Poor Laws, but a couple of helpful pages. (Ignore the bits which refer specifically to Lincolnshire.)
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN#Poor
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorhouse

Going back to the entry/entries on Ancestry, in the bottom middle of the image page you see something something like 126 of 780, followed by the word 'go'. Change the first number to 1, then press go. This will take you to the first image. It will probably just be the cover of the book, but keep clicking the forward arrow on the right-hand side of the page, until you come to the first printed pages. They will give you a lot more information about the workhouse, and in one of the books I found a fascinating page about the food allowance for each inmate, and how the food was to be prepared, as well as a list of regulations about out-door relief.

There are usually several books in each block of images, each covering a half year, so you can be precise as to which half year is referred to in John's entry of 1872-1876.