birth not registered on GRO

[bellfamily]

hi
i would like to get the birth certificate for Ann Elizabeth Wooten (Wootten) born 1st September 1839, christened 22nd september 1839 - woolwich - parents James and Mary
i have found the information on FMP & Ancestry so i know she exists.


but i cant find her on the GRO.

the only one i can find is Ann wootten - born 2nd quarter of 1839 in Eastry V5 P133.

i believe her parents were married in 1825 in woolwich - Mother Mary Smith -that is not certain as it is James Watton.
i found the Watton family in 1851 census , but could not find them in 1841 - she had several siblings all older than her so none of them appear on the GRO to confirm the mothers maiden name but all the children appear as Wootten in the searches.

obviously if i cant find her on the GRO i cant order a certificate.

any help would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks

[Lesley Robertson]

Ann was born only 2 years into birth registration, and a lot of babies were missed. However, I’m very curious to know what ANC and FMP give as the source of the data on their sites?

[bellfamily]

These are the references from my search
ANC - Source citation for st Mary Magdelaine - woolwich London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920

Family search "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLP5-QQ6 : 21 March 2020), Ann Elizabeth Wooten, 1839.

[wimsey]

deleted suggestion because I misread the opening post

[Pamelawagster]

The birth in Eastry in in the June quarter with MMN- Denness.

I can only see baptism records for Ann born 1st September in Woolwich not a birth reg.

[helachau]

1841 Census ref HO107 494 15 22
John Wooton, 35, Ag Lab
Mary Ann Wooton, 25
Mary Wooton, 5
Sarah Wooton, 7
Ann Wooton, 2
Address Cattle Market, St Peter, Eastry

Baptism (transcript only)
Sarah Ann Wootton, St Peters Sandwich, bap 1834, mother Mary Ann Denne Wootton,
Mary Ann Wootton, 16 Oct 1836, Sandwich St Peter, parents John and Mary

[Pamelawagster]

Details from the Woolwich baptism.

Ann Elizabeth Wooten
Baptism 22 Sep 1839
St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, England
Father: James Wooten, Occ- Gardener
Mother: Mary Wooten
Address:Red Lion Street.

[bellfamily]

i am searching for Annie Elizabeth Wooten - father James married John Bell 25/12/1858
the full marriage details are on ANC

i tried working back but this is the only census i could find.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
42, Mulgrave Place, Woolwich, Greenwich, London & Kent, England
Name Age
James Watton 60
Mary Watton 56
William Watton 23
George Walton 20
Marytt Walton 17
Ann E Walton 11


i dont think the Eastry family are the same family , but happy to be proved wrong !

[bellfamily]

Pamelawagster
yes thats the info i have - James was previously in the army - most of the children (william , elizabeth, george and Mary)have been entered in the army records as births registered.

do i just assume that she is just missing from the GRO - is that common.

[Megan Roberts]

do i just assume that she is just missing from the GRO - is that common.

I think probably yes. This blog from the National Archives is a bit long but gives some interesting insights into the early years of civil registration:

https://media.nationalarchives.gov.u...20of%20changes.