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    Dear everyone
    I am trying to confirm the following:

    I have William Richard Challinor born 1889 Kidderminster England died 1956 Willoughby nsw.
    married Alice Green 1915 Sydney.
    now according to his marriage cert, it states: parents Edward Challinor and Florence May Bird,
    looking at the 1901 census it shows:
    Edward born 1859 Walsall, wife Mary Emma
    children William born 1889, SEymour born 1896

    Cannot find a marriage for edward and Florence.
    maybe they had an affair.
    found a death for Florence May Bird 1896, so maybe William lived with Edward and Mary.

    also, trying to confirm parents of Edward.
    Edward born 1859 Walsall Staffordshire, father Thomas, mother Harriet.
    also listed census 1871 with siblings William born 1858 and Ann Elizabeth born 1864

    trying also to find marriage of Thomas and Harriet.

    thanking you in advance,
    Doreenh

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    What does the 1891 census say? Men often remarried rapidly after being widowed, especially if they had small children.

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    There is this birth.

    Richard William Challinor
    Sept Q 1887
    West Bromwich
    MMN- Bird
    Vol 06B
    Pg 790

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    trying also to find marriage of Thomas and Harriet.
    CHALLINOR, EDWARD, Mother's maiden name DEARN
    GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 556

    Marriages Jun 1856, Walsall 6b 663
    CHALLINOR Thomas also listed Dearn Harriet
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    Last edited by Megan Roberts; 18-08-2021 at 8:00 AM. Reason: Got it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoreenH View Post
    Dear everyone


    looking at the 1901 census it shows:
    Edward born 1859 Walsall, wife Mary Emma
    children William born 1889, SEymour born 1896


    Doreenh

    The 1901 Census referred to actually shows the following:

    John Freeman Head Widower 76 1825 Retired guard chain maker Birmingham, Warwickshire
    Emma Challinor Daughter Married 44 1857 - Birmingham, Warwickshire
    William Challinor Grand son Single 17 1884 Accountant clerk (gas office) Birmingham, Warwickshire
    Seymour Challinor Grand son - 5 1896 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
    Edward Challinor Son-in-law Married 42 1859 Merchant's clerk (export) Walsall, Staffordshire

    Piece 2882, Folio 105 Page 29

    In the 1911 Census Emma is Mary Emma and Seymour is Ralph Seymour. According to the original form Mary and Edward have been married for 28 years and have two children, one of whom has died. Based on that it would seem to suggest that William from the 1901 census is dead. There are two possible deaths that would fit the criteria: William in 1907 in Birkenhead and William Edward in 1903 in Aberystwyth.

    So how sure are you that the 1901 census you have found is the correct one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamelawagster View Post
    There is this birth.

    Richard William Challinor
    Sept Q 1887
    West Bromwich
    MMN- Bird
    Vol 06B
    Pg 790

    I don't think that's the right one because he appears in the 1911 census living with his parents EDWIN and JEMIMA, who had been married for 27 years.

    I can't find a likely birth anywhere. There are no Challinor births in Kidderminster between 1887-1891.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan Roberts View Post
    I don't think that's the right one because he appears in the 1911 census living with his parents EDWIN and JEMIMA, who had been married for 27 years.

    I can't find a likely birth anywhere. There are no Challinor births in Kidderminster between 1887-1891.

    I have just realised that living in that household in the 1911 census is a daughter aged 15 called Florence May Challinor!!

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    The Challinor children with mother Jemima,checking GRO for children’s births,MMN - Bird.
    Father Edwin Thomas.

    Haven’t seen a marraige for Jemima Bird / Challinor.

    1891 transcribed as CHELLINCE
    Last edited by Pamelawagster; 18-08-2021 at 8:32 AM. Reason: Added

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    Assuming the 1901 family is correctly identified, Free Bmd records these two names on same page, Dec Q 1882. Birmingham. Edward Challinor and Mary Emma/Emily Freeman.

    GRO Index births.
    Ralph Seymour Challinor. 1896 March Q Aston. Mmn Freeman.

    PS I see others have got in ahead of me whilst I was typing!

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