Hill family... Wolverhampton

[christanel]

Marriage Banns
Mary Farnell
Residence - Coseley
Spouse - Thomas Hill
Spouse's Residence Place- Bradley
Marriage Banns 29 Jul 1888
Marriage Banns Place
Bradley, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Marriage Banns Place (Original) St Martin, Bradley, St Martin, Staffordshire, England

Do you have this marriage certificate and if so what are Thomas and Mary's father's names and occupations.
Christina

[christanel]

Alma you have done brilliantly and I agree that it would be much easier to help if census references had been given.
The reason I asked for the marriage details for Thomas and Mary Furnell is that I am doubting myself as to his parentage but if you are satisfied that is good.
Christina

[almach]

Alma you have done brilliantly and I agree that it would be much easier to help if census references had been given.
The reason I asked for the marriage details for Thomas and Mary Furnell is that I am doubting myself as to his parentage but if you are satisfied that is good.
Christina

Hi Christina,

Do you mean if I'm satisfied, or if Grasshopper is? If me, I can't say I'm confident about the lineage without seeing certificates, there are too many possible Hills. All the censuses I posted are the ones mentioned by Grasshopper, as to whether they are the right ones.....the jury's out!

[almach]

The 1851 census says Sarah Hill age 15 is a daughter. She isn't with William and Sarah in 1841 so I wonder whose daughter she is. Also, is it possible the Sarah's in 1841 and 51 are different people, i.e. did Sarah in 1841 die and William remarry to another Sarah, I ask as I cannot find births for John 6 and Fanny/Frances 5 (1851 census) with MMN Thomas but there are these, which may or may not be yours, but birth years and place of birth fit.

HILL, JOHN HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 337
HILL, FRANCES HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 330

I'm inclined to think William's wife has been wrongly entered as Sarah and should be Rosanna.

William Hill widower a miner married Rosanna HARRINGTON 4th Dec 1843 Sedgley All Saints. Rosanna's father Joseph a forgeman, no father entered for William, both were living Ettingshall. Witnesses Joseph Aston and Ellen Aston.

Ettingshall is less than a mile from Monmore Green.

Sarah Hill age 24 of Monmore Hill was buried at St George Wolverhampton 27th Oct 1841.

[almach]

It looks like Hannah is also misentered and should say Rosanna

1861, Bilston Road, RG 9; Piece: 1996; Folio: 106; Page: 19
Hannah born Wednesbury, all others Wolverhampton.
William Hill 48, stone miner
Hannah Hill 40
John Hill 16, coal miner
Hannah Hill 11
William Hill 8
Ann Maria Hill 5
Eliza Hill 3
Bilston Road is also the address in 1851.

HILL, ELIZA HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 417

HILL, FRANCES HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 330

HILL, JOHN HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 337

HILL, ANN MARIA HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 364

1871, RG 10, Piece: 2940; Folio: 141; Page number: 33
Wolverhampton,
William Hill, 58 Head, coal miner, Wolverhampton
Rosanna Hill 56 Wife, Wednesbury
William Hill, 11 Son, coal miner (it is possible his age says 18)
Ellin Hill, 8 Daughter

HILL, ELLEN HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 462

1881, RG11; Piece: 2806; Folio: 12; Page: 18
Wm Place Bilston Rd
William Hill 69
Rosannah Hill 62
Ellen Hill 18

1891 RG12; Piece: 2235; Folio: 98; Page: 26;
Rosanna is a widow, a boarder in the household of ellen Holloway

Ellen is possibly her dau.

Marriages Sep 1882, Wolverhampton 6b 747
Ellen Hill, and on same page Isaac Henry Holloway.

[almach]

I don't know if this is the same Rosanna(h) Hill, but it is very sad.

Rosannah Hill was sentenced to imprisonment for one month with hard labour for attempted suicide, 24 Jul 1891

[almach]

Sarah Hill age 24 of Monmore Hill was buried at St George Wolverhampton 27th Oct 1841.

Sarah and her son William died within a month of each other.

HILL, WILLIAM THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 343

William Hill age 1 month of Monmore Green, buried St George 15 Nov 1841

A baptism - William Hill 13 Oct 1841 at St Peter Wolverhampton, son of William (miner) and Sarah of Monmore Green

[Pam Downes]

I don't know if this is the same Rosanna(h) Hill, but it is very sad.

Rosannah Hill was sentenced to imprisoned for one month with hard labour for attempted suicide, 24 Jul

Alma - before you forget or lose the reference - can you remember the year?

[almach]

Alma - before you forget or lose the reference - can you remember the year?

1891. I've amended the original post.

[Groundhopper]

bloomin eck...what stars you are...you askrd for certificate information....
Lilly may Hill d o Thomas Hill (blast furaceman) and Mary (Farnell) oct 1894 sedgley.
sept 1888 cosely thomas hill bach labourer hall green st. father thomas hill miner marr
mary farnell spinster highfields father James FARnell boatman
nov 1866 thomas hill wolverhampton so thomas hill coal miner and elizabeh hill formerley jones.
june 1859 bloxwich thomas hill miner from new invention 20 s o william hill miner marr
elizabeth jones 19 spnstr at home d ojames jones miner.
mar 1839 monmore green wton thomas hill s o william hill miner and sarah(thomas)
dec 1837 william hill 24 miner s o john backhose miner marr sarah thomas 21 spnstr labourer d o richard thomas miner

i have had no success with the thomas family or the jones family...