confused and lost

[Pam Downes]

Ai ruled James out as on the marriage certificate it has fathers name Brown Gillson

Yes, I've just realised that, and was coming to ask what occupation was given for Brown Gillson on Elizabeth's marriage certificate?

[Barneyppants]

You beat me to it, wimsey.

I was just about to post those 1901 census details, along with the marriage registration details for Alice and Harry.

Alice Eliza Hukins and Harry Bidey, June quarter 1902, Hastings registration district.

ADDED;
Alice's previous marriage:
Alice Eliza Heasmond and Joseph Hukins, December quarter 1893, Hastings registration district.

Only likely death showing on FreeBMD is for a Joseph Hukins, aged 32, Dartford registration district, March quarter 1902.
The 1901 census does describe Alice as married, not widowed.

Yes I have him death 1902 she then goes on to marry harry Bidey

[wimsey]

GRO index

Elizabeth (no middle name) GILSON - born 1840, Newmarket, mother's maiden name DENNIS


the only baptism record I am finding for a child of Brown Gilson/Gillson and his wife Elizabeth is

Mary Ann Gilson - baptised February 1840, St Mary's, Ely, Cambridgeshire

[Barneyppants]

1841 age 2months Swaffham Bulbeck Cambridgeshire parents James and Maria
1851 age 10 where born Swaffham Bulbeck Cambridgeshire parents James and Maria

[Barneyppants]

GRO index

Elizabeth (no middle name) GILSON - born 1840, Newmarket, mother's maiden name DENNIS


the only baptism record I am finding for a child of Brown Gilson/Gillson and his wife Elizabeth is

Mary Ann Gilson - baptised February 1840, St Mary's, Ely, Cambridgeshire

I did find a Mary ann Gilson I wasn't too sure about whether her name was Maria at birth but it was changed?
but why would it be changed and when? obviously before her marriage to Edward then
was it because they had a child called Elizabeth and died I dunno,

[Barneyppants]

Yes, I've just realised that, and was coming to ask what occupation was given for Brown Gillson on Elizabeth's marriage certificate?

Brown Gillson Bailiff
Edward Apps labourer

[wimsey]

1851 census

schedule 2; piece 1764; folio 280; page 1 Witchford, Cambridgeshire

Brown Gilson - 44 - born Ely - farming steward (?)
Elizabeth - 42 - born Ely

no children listed


October 1832 - St Mary, Ely, marriage Brown Gillson to Elizabeth Haylock

[Barneyppants]

1851 census

schedule 2; piece 1764; folio 280; page 1 Witchford, Cambridgeshire

Brown Gilson - 44 - born Ely - farming steward (?)
Elizabeth - 42 - born Ely

no children listed


October 1832 - St Mary, Ely, marriage Brown Gillson to Elizabeth Haylock

yes that was another i found but with no children was the rules then that you were only on the Census if you were at the house that night? maybe she was in hospital or something?

[wimsey]

burial 14 April 1840, Mary Ann Gilson, St Mary, Ely - aged 0


Cambridgeshire Bishop's Transcripts
born 28 March 1841, Swaffham Bulbeck, Cambridgeshire - Elizabeth Anne Gilson, parents James & Maria



1841 census - Witchford, Isle of Ely

Brown Gilson - 35 - agricultural labourer
Elizabeth - 30

no other family members but the next person on the census is

Sarah Haylock aged 9

[Barneyppants]

burial 14 April 1840, Mary Ann Gilson, St Mary, Ely - aged 0


Cambridgeshire Bishop's Transcripts
born 28 March 1841, Swaffham Bulbeck, Cambridgeshire - Elizabeth Anne Gilson, parents James & Maria

every where I look it takes me back to James and Maria,