Hi,
First-time poster.
I have obtained a death certificate from 1880 where an 18 year-old man died in a tragic accident.
It was signed by his mother as a witness, who actually has a different surname to him - but it definitely states her capacity as his mother.
Any ideas why that would be? If the mother was a widow would it not be highly unusual for that time to revert to her maiden name? Or is it more likely the child's father was not married to the mother but the child inherited his name? Which is more likely for the time?
Any ideas here would be greatly welcome.
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13-06-2021, 11:08 PM #1
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Death Certificate Query - Different Surname..
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13-06-2021, 11:29 PM #2
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Hello erobitha,
Welcome to British-Genealogy.
Firstly, are we talking about a death in Ireland or England, or elsewhere? I'm asking because in some countries it's easier to find other, confirming, evidence.
The first thing that springs to mind is that the mother was widowed from the father of the son and then remarried. Although she has a different surname, she is still the mother.
If you'e like to tell us the relevant details from the death certificate I'm sure our sleuths will soon be on the case.
Need place and date of death, name of deceased, and details of informant (presumably it says something along the lines of Ada Brown, mother, witness to accident, and her address).
PamVulcan XH558 - “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
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14-06-2021, 5:33 AM #3
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Hi,
Really appreciate the assistance.
The death occurred in Wales. Ultimately I am trying to find the birth record of James Davies, but as his mother has a different surname it has not helped me narrow down potential results.
The death certificate can be found here:
https://jwsage.com/wp-content/uploads...ies-scaled.jpg
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14-06-2021, 5:59 AM #4
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I get a security warning with that link which obviously I'm not happy to click on. Others may be more computer-literate than me and so OK with clicking it, but just in case, could you transcribe the details I asked for?
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14-06-2021, 6:37 AM #5
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I get the security warning too.
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14-06-2021, 6:49 AM #6
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Hi,
The link was wrong. it would much easier if I could add a jpg to the thread.
Transcribing it would be hard as handwriting is a little difficult to read and includes some Welsh place names.
If anyone has any other ideas I can share a JPEG if this does not work please let me know.
https://jwsage.com/wp-content/uploads...ies-scaled.jpg
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14-06-2021, 6:59 AM #7
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Same scary warning! Use this: https://www.british-genealogy.com/fo...ght=Post+photo
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14-06-2021, 7:02 AM #8
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14-06-2021, 7:33 AM #9
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Appreciate the patience guys. Hopefully I am there now!
https://i.postimg.cc/Hkz2vHk3/davies.jpg
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14-06-2021, 9:24 AM #10
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The registrar's district, and the place where Risca colliery was located is Mynyddyslwyn. It is also spelt Mynyddislwyn.
At that time was located in Monmouthshire. Today it is Gwent.
You can find out more information about the area here: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Mynyddyslwyn
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