Louis coppillie 1898

[Pam Downes]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't find anything with Mary C Coppelle.1939 census
No idea what I'm doing wrong,
Thanks

If you're searching on FMP, you're not doing anything wrong. FMP have made a dog's dinner of the names, though I would agree with their date of birth for Mary being 4 March 1902, rather than Christina's guess of 4 November 1902. And they're living in Washington, not Durham.
On FMP, Louis has been indexed as Doris (Louisa M A) Coppeller, female. And obviously Mary's surname has been indexed as Coppeller.

Pam

[toffeetower]

If you're searching on FMP, you're not doing anything wrong. FMP have made a dog's dinner of the names, though I would agree with their date of birth for Mary being 4 March 1902, rather than Christina's guess of 4 November 1902. And they're living in Washington, not Durham.
On FMP, Louis has been indexed as Doris (Louisa M A) Coppeller, female. And obviously Mary's surname has been indexed as Coppeller.

Pam

Ahhh thanks I'm using ancestry,
Think I've found Mary Smith in 1911 schedule 212
Mary Alice Smith born 1901

Also 1901 RG.13 4654 Durham
Mary A Smith 6 months

Father John Smith mother Margaret Annie purvis

Maybe baptism
Name Mary Alice Smith
Gender Female
Baptism Date 21 Oct 1900
Baptism Place Clock Field, Durham, England
Father John Smith
Mother Margaret Annie Smith
FHL Film Number1514581Reference IDv 2 p 57

[Pam Downes]

Ahhh thanks I'm using ancestry,
Think I've found Mary Smith in 1911 schedule 212
Mary Alice Smith born 1901

Also 1901 RG.13 4654 Durham
Mary A Smith 6 months

Father John Smith mother Margaret Annie purvis

Maybe baptism
Name Mary Alice Smith
Gender Female
Baptism Date 21 Oct 1900
Baptism Place Clock Field, Durham, England
Father John Smith
Mother Margaret Annie Smith
FHL Film Number1514581Reference IDv 2 p 57

Oh no you haven't.

What was Mary's middle name when she died?

Also if she was born in 1902 as per the 1939 Register and her death registration, how can she possible appear in the 1901 census?

Pam

[toffeetower]

Oh no you haven't.

What was Mary's middle name when she died?

Also if she was born in 1902 as per the 1939 Register and her death registration, how can she possible appear in the 1901 census?

Pam

Is the 1939 correct though as states Mary C but the marriage we may have says Mary A as in Mary Alice????

"COPPILLIE Louis M A Smith Chester-le-S. vol 10a page 1045"

Mary Anne Coppillie death
Mary Ann Coppillie
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1902
Registration Date: Jan 1978
[Feb 1978]
[Mar 1978]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Durham Northern
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1
Page: 1419

Or does the M A stand for Maria Arsen.?

[toffeetower]

Is the 1939 correct though as states Mary C but the marriage we may have says Mary A as in Mary Alice????

"COPPILLIE Louis M A Smith Chester-le-S. vol 10a page 1045"

Mary Anne Coppillie death
Mary Ann Coppillie
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1902
Registration Date: Jan 1978
[Feb 1978]
[Mar 1978]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Durham Northern
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1
Page: 1419

Or does the M A stand for Maria Arsen.?

So as you say it can't be the same as what I found as she was born 1902
But middle name is Anne so ill go digging again
I forgot how confusing this gets, I'm really rusty at the min

[toffeetower]

Poss Mary Ann Smith in 1911

Name: Mary Ann Smith
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Medomsley, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Winlaton
Search Photos: Search for 'Winlaton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Burn Road Winlaton
Occupation: School
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration District: Winlaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 30518

[toffeetower]

Poss Mary Ann Smith in 1911

Name: Mary Ann Smith
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Medomsley, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Winlaton
Search Photos: Search for 'Winlaton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Burn Road Winlaton
Occupation: School
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration District: Winlaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 30518

Quite a few Mary Anne Smith born 1902 in Durham area,
My best bet is to send off for both of Louis coppillie marriages I think,
Is there any delay because of covid does anyone know?
Thanks

[Pam Downes]

Is the 1939 correct though as states Mary C

No, it says Mary A, albeit the A is badly written.

but the marriage we may have says Mary A as in Mary Alice????

"COPPILLIE Louis M A Smith Chester-le-S. vol 10a page 1045"

Yes, it could stand for Mary Alice. Or Mary Ada, or Mary Annabel, or Mary Alison, etc.
However, as her death registration says Mary Ann, I suspect her middle name was Ann.
The only way to confirm it is to send for the marriage certificate, which should also give her father's name and occupation.
Which is a far more reliable way of trying to find her parents with a surname such as Smith. There's three possible Mary Ann Smith birth registrations in County Durham alone, and you currently have no proof that she was born in County Durham.
There's eighteen possibles in England and Wales.

Mary Anne Coppillie death
Mary Ann Coppillie
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1902
Registration Date: Jan 1978
[Feb 1978]
[Mar 1978]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Durham Northern
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1
Page: 1419

Stop changing the spelling. Learn to quote correctly.

Or does the M A stand for Maria Arsen.?

Which M A are you referring to? M A Smith?
Or Louis' middle names? Again, you need to check your spelling.

Quite a few Mary Anne Smith born 1902 in Durham area,
My best bet is to send off for both of Louis coppillie marriages I think,
Is there any delay because of covid does anyone know?

There's a message on the GRO website about waiting times. Can't remember what it says.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/c...ates/login.asp


Also please note that you are not allowed to copy-and-paste, as it is a breach of copyright. The way an index is written is copyright to the company.

Pam

[toffeetower]

Just spoken with great grandson of Louis! Andrew is a paint and decorator, his father David was also a paint and decorator and it seems so was Louis! So well done whoever found that record with him as a paint and decorator! Ive sent off for marriage of Louis and Dorothy in 1978 too! As soon as it arrives I will inform you all! Thanks very much for your time and help everyone

[toffeetower]

Hi, am I allowed to post pic of the marriage cert as it has come this afternoon?