Can't Find Grandma's English Birth Cert.

[Jomot1]

Lucy had moved to Essex before John W died but Dorothy's baptism still has him as her father.

John's death notice says he was of Bolt Court, Fleet Street, London and also of Stanwell Moor, but had "lately been residing at Walton on the Naze" which is in the Tendring Registration District, Essex. Dorothy Charlotte's birth was also in Tendring RD.

[Jomot1]

It looks like Lucy died in 1944 & it was stated that her husband was Henry George.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLGB-VHY

[almach]

It looks like Lucy died in 1944 & it was stated that her husband was Henry George.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLGB-VHY

Interesting, but the information on the certificate is only as accurate as what the informant knew or had been told. I know I sound like doubting Thomas but without us finding a marriage between Henry George and Lucy I'm inclined to think he was a figment of Lucy's imagination, but I'll keep an open mind and keep looking for evidence he did exist.

[almach]

Interesting, but the information on the certificate is only as accurate as what the informant knew or had been told. I know I sound like doubting Thomas but without us finding a marriage between Henry George and Lucy I'm inclined to think he was a figment of Lucy's imagination, but I'll keep an open mind and keep looking for evidence he did exist.

Oh, me of little faith. There is a possible marriage

Marriages Mar 1905
BARNES Lucy Romford 4a 510
GEORGE Henry Romford 4a 510

So, why was Queenie Mary baptised with surname Barnes.

[almach]

Would someone look at this passenger list, please? I think it could be Lucy and three of her children but their first names have initials only and the handwriting isn't very legible.

Miss E D Barnes, Age: 11, born abt 1899
Departure Port: Liverpool, Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1910
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Laurentic

ETA: if it is them Lucy is travelling as Mrs L George.

[Bess]

Ancestry London BDM Holy Trinity Gray's Inn Road Camden
WICKHAM Ernest William

born 12 Jan 1890 baptised 5 Apr 1892
parents John, actor, Lucy residence 3 Bolt Court

Census 1911 Canada at 20 Saunders Avenue Toronto West
BARNES Lucy widow born Feb 1862 England immigration date 1910
BARNES Ernest son born Oct 1889 England immigration date 1908 shipper at factory
BARNES Dorothy dau born Jul 1897 England immigration date 1910
BARNES Mary dau born Jun 1901 England immigration date 1910
SHERWOOD Charles nephew born Mar 1889 England immigration date 1908 gardener

Who is Charles SHERWOOD?

[almach]

Would someone look at this passenger list, please? I think it could be Lucy and three of her children but their first names have initials only and the handwriting isn't very legible.

Miss E D Barnes, Age: 11, born abt 1899
Departure Port: Liverpool, Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1910
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Laurentic

ETA: if it is them Lucy is travelling as Mrs L George.

Would someone give their opinion, please?

[Squaredancer]

I wondered why you said the writing wasn't very clear - there are two lists relating to the Laurentic - the passenger list leaving the UK and the arrivals in Canada:

The passenger list is very clear and I see:

Mrs L George, housekeeper, 39
Mr J Barnes, Farmer, 41
Miss E D Barnes, child, 11
Miss L George, child, 4

[grisel]

Would someone give their opinion, please?

I've had a look and it does look like them although as you say, the writing is hard to read.Well spotted. The four year old looks like Miss Q George although the transcription ( on collections canada)was not Q.
Edit after looking at above post.
I see
Mrs L George 48 widow, going to Toronto. Previous occupation housekeeper, intended occupation farmer.
Miss Q George 4
Mr J Barnes 17 clerk
Miss ED(? hard to read)Barnes 11

[almach]

Thank you Squaredancer and Grisel. So, do we think it is very likely them?