RAF Major Johnston crash in Sweden 1920

[HenrikSandin]

Hi,

I have found a fantastic piece of history in my attic. A piece of the propeller to an AVRON plane that crashed on the lake where I live in 1920. The pilot was a former RAF pilot from GB named Cecil Hubert Ralli Johnston. After the war he worked as a pilot in Sweden for a few years. He survived the crash and met his wife here: Ellen Martina Elisabeth Johnston (Mayer). They moved back to England (Middlesex, London probably) around 1922-23 and that is where my research meets a dead end. I can not find any info on them after that. I was hoping to find any living grandchildren or great grandchildren that I can give the propeller to. It has some amazing handwritten information on it about the crash and about the pilot.

Please help me, it would be awsome if I can find a relative.

Best regards, Henrik

[christanel]

Welcome to the British-Genealogy forums Henrik.
I have removed your post, which was exactly the same as this one, from the Middlesex forum because duplicate posts can cause frustration and confusion if our members are searching for the same information and then replying in two different forums.
There is a public tree on ancestry which has details on this man and records his death as 30 July 1959 Stockholm, Sweden. Birth 9 June 1892 Hampstead, London,
anestry.com has the probate date 11 Feb 1960 London and gives his place of residence as Askrikegatan, Probate granted to Edward Tolley Grubb solicitor. The tree doesn't have any details for his wife Ellen Martina Elisabet Mayer's death or any children. It may be that we have to look for descendants of Cecil's siblings.
Christina

[christanel]

His and his wife's record in the Swedish Emigrants Church records gives his birthdate as 7 June 1892 and he is departing Sweden from Gbg S Annedal, Göteborgs och Bohuswith his wife for England 24 September 1927

1901 UK census
Piece 125 Folio 25 Page 42
Hampstead
Robert R Johnston 46 Journalist/Author
Eliza Johnston wife 46
Marguerite G Johnston daughter 10
Cecil H R Johnston son 8
Plus servants

Parents and Cecil and Marguerite stall together in the 1911 census so it looks as if Cecil only had the one sibling.

There is also an entry for him in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
Cecil Hubert Johnston
Birth Date: 9 Jun 1892
Birth Place: Hampstead London
First Service Date: 16 Sep 1914
First Ship Served On: Pembroke III
Last Service Date: 27 Nov 1914
Last Ship Served On: Pembroke III
Service Number: F442

He and Ellen were married 27 May 1923 at Christ Church, Down Street, Mayfair, London, Westminster, England
Christina

[christanel]

His sister never married
Death Marguerita G Johnston age 58 registered January 1953 North Walsham Norfolk.
So that leaves us with looking for descendants of his parents siblings unless we can find any births for children to Cecil and Ellen either in Sweden or the UK.
Christina

[gilian rowland]

Re SIBLINGS

This is his Birth
JOHNSTON, CECIL HUBERT RALLI BUCK
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 659

Marriage of parents Q2 1889 Eliza Buck Robert Ralli Johnston

1911 census Claphan London has two children born alive and two alive. The other sibling is Marguerite Johnston born 1891
JOHNSTON, MARGUERITA GLADYS BUCK
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 292

Seems to be a wealthy family with several servants and a Nurse for his Mother.
Jill

[gilian rowland]

My information crossed in the post with Christina's 3a nd 4!

[HenrikSandin]

Wow, thanks. So, he moved back to Sweden. That helped me a bit. The only trace I have found so far though is that he was the cashier for the Swedish Rugby Association in 1956

He was actually the cashier from 1933 until his death in 1959.

[christanel]

My information crossed in the post with Christina's 3a nd 4!

No worries, It is always good to have confirmation that what I have found and posted is correct
Christina

[christanel]

1891 RG11 Piece 183 Folio 5
87 Stanford Hill Hackney
John Evans 53 Head Retired Licensed Victualler Longcot Berkshire
Mary E Evans 44 Wife Stockwell Surrey
John L Evans 17 son Clerk Insurance Kingsland London
Charles T Evans son 14 Kingsland London
Mary E Evans 12 dau Kingsland London
Edith F Evans 10 dau Highbury London
Arthur G Evans 8 son Stamford Hill London
Albert D Evans 7 son
Mary Liddiard 73 Wife's aunt living on own means Bishopstone Wiltshire
Francis Liddiard 30 Wife's sister, Boarder
Jane M Clarke 22 servant/cook
Ester Holnnes 23 housemaid
Mary Eyles 18 housemaid
85 Stamford Hill hackney
Maria T Buck 29 daughter Independant means
Harriett S Ellis 49 Widow, Companion.
Robert R Johnston 34 son-in-law Journalist/Author born Blantyre New Boston
Eliza Johnston 30 daughter Kingsland London
Marguerite Johnston granddaughter 11 Months Kingsland London
Louisa Lodge 19 Parlourmaid
Martha Allard 23 Nurse
Louisa Purkiss 24 Cook
Caroline Taylor 17 Housemaid.

This is getting complicated. A Mary Ellen Liddiard married a John Evans in 1873 March 1/4 Islington registration district, and there is a birth reg for Charles Thomas Evans born Sept 1/4 1876 age 14 in the above census mother's maiden name Liddiard

1881 census
RG11 Piece 287 Folio 36 Page 41
Mary Ellen Evans Head 34 Married
John Liddiard Evans 7 Kingsland
Charles Thomas Evans 4 Kingsland
Elizabeth Mary Evans 2
Edith Frances Evans
Mary Liddiard 63 Aunt Widow No Occupation
Alice Maud Barrett 22vgeneral servant
Elizabeth Hannah Thorogood 23 nurse

Living next door is this family
Thomas Buck 71 Retired Chemist, Reading, Berkshire
Thomas William Buck 24 Tea Dealer, Kingsland, Middlesex
Eliza Buck 26 Kingsland, Middlesex
Annie Buck 23 Kingsland, Middlesex,
Hannah Buck 21 Kingsland, Middlesex,
Mary Mc Kenzie 28 servant
nee
So why is Eliza Johnson nee Burk the daughter of John Evans and his wife Mary E Liddiard in the 1891 census?? Not that it makes any difference to trying to find descendants but I got caught up in chase.
Christina

[HenrikSandin]

I have now found out that Cecils wife, Ellen, died in 1954. She kept her last name Johnston but she was not living in Stockholm, like Cecil, she lived in a town called Jönköping when she died. And she seems to have used the name Lisa and not Ellen.