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    Researching into my maternal Grandfather found the following 1939 Census entry


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    4th Regt. AA RA

    I'm making the assumption that he was in an AA battery sometime but how/where do I progress the details

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    Welcome to the British Genealogy Forum, Mike.
    That image isn’t really legible on my iPad. Could you type the text as well?
    Did he survive the war?

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    John Albert Porter born 2 November 1887

    Ancestry has transcribed the next bit as

    4th Regt A A R A Botter Hown Incapacitated


    I know nothing about military records - would A.A. be anti-aircraft ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_An...nited_Kingdom)

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    Full text reads
    Porter John Albert DoB 2 Nov 87 Occupation Bolter Down Incapacitated

    then added to it (looking like different ink and handwriting ) is the transcription
    4th Regt. A.A R.A

    I'm not sure yet on his death as I don't remember him at all but have it narrowed down to two likely dates
    either 1945 in West Bromwich Staffordshire or 1962 in Rowley Regis Staffordshire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimsey View Post
    John Albert Porter born 2 November 1887

    Ancestry has transcribed the next bit as

    4th Regt A A R A Botter Hown Incapacitated


    I know nothing about military records - would A.A. be anti-aircraft ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_An...nited_Kingdom)
    I'm assuming that AA is anti aircraft and that RA is Royal Artillery

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    I can't find the John A Porter who died 1962

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimsey View Post
    I can't find the John A Porter who died 1962
    oh, sorry, Albert J Porter died Rowley Regis, 4th quarter 1962, aged 80

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    Those letters are in 2 distinct groups - AA RA (I turned the pc and big monitor on). I'm wondering whether the RA indicates Royal Artillery...
    If he was incapacitated, he might have qualified for a silver war badge.

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    With them on the 1939 register is a son Jabez Porter born 10 April 1915. On the GRO index his birth is registered with the mother's maiden name Snead as is Samuel's born 1920.
    Marriage John Albert Porter to Elizabeth Snead Dec 1/4 1908 registration district W. Bromwich vol 6b page 1451
    Do you have this marriage certificate? What is Albert John's occupation?
    From the records I have seen it looks as if John Albert swapped his first names around as he was baptised as Albert John, father Samuel and mother Margaret Alice. Birth registered as Albert John. There are many trees on ancestry who have John Albert's wife as an Elizabeth Yates but I can't see a birth reg on the GRO index for a Jabez Porter mmn Yates. I know this is not answering your query but I am trying to establish who your man is and just exactly when he served and this background stuff may help with that. If he served after 1920 then his service record will still be with the MoD abd you can apply for them giving just his birth date and a copy of his death certificate. You will need 30 pounds and a shed load of patience as the waiting time at the moment can be 12 months or more. This 'sticky' explains and gives links to the UK gov site.
    There is a death registration W. Bromwhich June 1/4 1946 for a John A Porter age 58 which fits your man's details especially as he is using John as his first name in 1939.
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    Hi

    Yes "I'm assuming that AA is anti aircraft and that RA is Royal Artillery" is as you said.
    What the 4th means I am not sure, as the was a 4th HAA (Heavy) and 4th LAA (Light), but probably heavy as the light was not formed until 1942.
    Details -
    4 Heavy AA Regiment RA
    Locations
    Sep 39
    Nov 39
    May 40
    Jan 42
    Sep 42

    UK
    France
    UK
    W Africa
    N Africa

    Home Forces
    4 AA Bde
    26 AA Bde, 1 AA Div
    GHQ W Africa
    Middle East Forces

    But this is all speculation without getting his service record, that should be the start.

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    My Father 1819170 Lance Bombardier Robert Simpson 39/14 L.A.A. R.A.

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