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    Hi Paul
    Raphael went to the USA and changed his name to Ralph RAPHAEL. They immigrated to Boston Massachusetts circa 1882.His daughter Fanny aka Frances married Benjamin D Smith and died age 30 from Heart disease in 1902 her parents are recorded as Ralph b Holland and Rose b England Van WESSELL.
    Frances was living at 66 Fisher Avenue Woborn Montvale Massachusetts.

    1900 US Federal Census ( Copyright US Federal Census)
    Massachusetts Suffolk Boston Ward 19 District 1446
    17 Minden Street
    Ralph RAPHAEL H b July 1848 Holland 51 Cigar Maker, Rose 47 wife b Jan 1853 England
    Katie 20 dau b June 1879 England, Rachel dau 19 b 1880 England, Ada b Oct 1883 Massachusetts, Phoebe dau b 1885 Massachusetts

    Marriage Phoebe RAPHAEL 22- Nathan J Belson 1909 Massachusetts- Phoebe's parents Ralph Raphael, Rose SWART

    Nb You can see the name changes and spellings of surname

    Marriage 1894 City of Chelsea Boston
    Esther RAFEL 19 sales lady-Solomon MINDEN 22 Cigar Manufacturer- his parenst Joseph and Nancy COHEN; Esther's parents - Ralph RAFEL, Rosa SWARTZ

    1920 US Federal Census (Copyright US Federal Census)
    ROSE RAPHAEL 67 B abt 1853 widow b England Immigration 1882 Naturalised parents b Holland Mother in law
    Louis Isaacs shoemaker parents b England, Katherine wife 40 b 1882 England father b Holland mother b England, Rachael dau 12 b Massachusetts, Ralph son 9 b Massachusetts

    Nb It looks as if some of the family moved to the USA and at least 1 back to Holland. Each child needs checking on records.
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    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillip View Post
    Hi Paul
    This appears to be Raphael in London:
    1871 Census ( Copyright TNA) RG10 560 18 29
    7 Leslie Street Mile End Old Town London
    Raphael Von Wezel Boarder 21 u Cigar Maker b Holland Amsterdam
    Nb He is in the household of the SWART family

    He married Rose SWART April qtr 1871 London 1c 201
    He then appears in the 1881 Census (Copyright TNA ) RG11 483 149 46
    9 Cecil Road Mile End Old Town Londom
    Raphael V WEZEL H M 22 ( this appears an error as his age should be 32)Cigar Maker b Holland Amsterdam
    Rozeta wife 28 b Middx Whitechapel, Fanny dau 9 b Whitechapel,Betsy dau 7 b Whitechapel, Esther dau 4 b Whitechapel, Catherine dau 18 mths b Mile End Old Town

    This data suggests that Wolf settled in the UK pre his death.
    Hi Philip

    Hope you are doing well.

    Found that that next to Raphael his sister Esther also married in London to a Hijman Izaak Moscow (1849-1926)who lived in Whitechapel, they married in London city 1868,she died in London also in 1926 like Hijman did.
    Maybe it can be udentified where Esther and Hijman were buried?

    Isaac the brother married in Forest Gate London 1849(?) to a Rachel Wijnschenk and seemed to have 7 children. Sister Branca was apparently not in London,she lived in Amsterdam only could not find death date or that she married.
    Best regards,
    Paul

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    United Synagogue Burial Records online:
    ESTHER MOSCOW (nee VAN WESEL) Burial East Ham Jewish Cemetery Died 3 Sept 1926 age 79 Section T row 15 Plot 40

    HYMAN MOSCOW Burial East Ham Jewish Cemetery Burial 21.10.1940 Section 0 Row 15 Plot 488

    You can check other family names on the Burial Records
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillip View Post
    Hi Paul
    United Synagogue Burial Records online:
    ESTHER MOSCOW (nee VAN WESEL) Burial East Ham Jewish Cemetery Died 3 Sept 1926 age 79 Section T row 15 Plot 40

    HYMAN MOSCOW Burial East Ham Jewish Cemetery Burial 21.10.1940 Section 0 Row 15 Plot 488

    You can check other family names on the Burial Records
    Thanks once again Philip, veyr kind and will go find out more,
    have agood evening, best rgds, Paul

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    Hi Philip

    From US got a declaration of intention which they say is the forepost of getting citizenship,have already sent mail to Immigration Services. According to the declaration Ralph/Raphael came to New York December 17 1881 on a ship which seems to read Persian Monarch from London, he from there went on to Boston.Ellis Island does not recognize his name as arrival there so do not know where in New York he should have come.
    Have a nice day, best rgds, Paul

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    Ellis Island only came into existence in 1892.
    Prior to that, immigrants were processed through Castle Garden.
    https://www.castlegarden.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    Ellis Island only came into existence in 1892.
    Prior to that, immigrants were processed through Castle Garden.
    https://www.castlegarden.org/

    Pam
    Thanks for that information, did not realise Ellis Island was not pen yet,best rgds, Paul

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    Dear all

    It has been some sime so hope all are in good health.

    Following the van Wesel family: in the Amsterdam city archives it states that Wolf Joseph van Wesel (Amsterdam April 9, 1823), his wife Vrouwtje Coenraad Ziekenoppasser(Amsterdam either 12 or 19-12-1820)and children: Joseph Wolf(1844), Esther( 1847),Raphael(1849),Isaac(1859) and Branca(1862)all went to London. So am wondering what can be found about them,especially when and where did they come in the UK, where did they live and when did they die?
    Thamks all again for your kind help and data, have a nice weekend, best regards, Paul Beek

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    Firstly, does the Amsterdam document give a date/year of when the family travelled to the UK?

    I presume that you've checked the Dutch birth, amrriage, and deaths registers without finding any trace of any of them returning to Amsterdam?

    Have you considered that from London they might have moved onwards to the US or Canada?

    The only BMD registrations I can find for Wesel or Van Wesel in England and Wales are just three births between 1880 and 1891.

    There's a lot of reading in this leaflet from The National Archives.
    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...s/immigration/
    and also in this one
    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...h-citizenship/

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