Robert Wiles

[Susan Kitchen]

I'm hoping someone will be able to help as i'm in a dilemma at the moment. In my tree i have a Robert Wiles born about 1802. He married his wife Emma Pain in 1829. I have their marriage record and the Birth certificate of my Gt Gt Grandmother their daughter Eliza. But i want to get back from Robert. Unfortunately their are two one born about 1804 Elm Cambridgeshire Parents Cott and Elizabeth Wiles. There is also another Robert born about 1802 same place.
Two people on Ancestry public trees have done an awful of of work and have placed this Robert as the right one. His Parents are down and Martha Halifax and William Wiles. How can i make sure these two people have it right.
I would be grateful for any help.

[helachau]

FindMyPast has transcripts only (no image) of both baptisms.
The son of Cott and Elizabeth is named Robert, place Elm, date 31 Jan 1802. The son of William and Martha is named Robin, place Wisbech, St Peter, date 23 Jul 1804.
These are transcripts - unable to check original.

EDIT
wrong way around!! Robert Wiles date of baptism is 23 Jul 1804, Robin's is 31 Jan 1802
Apologies

[helachau]

FreeReg (transcript, no original) confirms the given name in the 31 Jan 1802 as Robin. However, all searching so far for a death, marriage, Census entry post baptism for the given name Robin has drawn a blank.

[helachau]

Elm Baptisms
Robert Wiles, 23 Jul 1804, parents Cott and Elizabeth Wiles
John Wiles, 11 Jul 1806, parents John Cott and Elizabeth Wiles

Wisbech St Peter baptisms, parents William and Martha Wiles, residence Wisbeach
Robin Wiles, 31 Jan 1802
Edward Wiles, 15 Apr 1804
John Wiles, 26 Oct 1806
Mary Wiles, 8 Nov 1807
John Wiles, 1 Jul 1809
John Halifax Wiles, 3 Apr 1811
Thomas Wiles, 29 Dec 1815 (father's occup Lab)

FreeReg has a William Wiles as witness to the 19 Oct 1829 marriage.

[helachau]

Robert and Emma named their first born Martha, bap 24 Feb 1830, church Wisbech St Peter. A later child was named Edward.

[helachau]

Census 1841 - ref.HO107 755 11 6 5
Address - Nordelph, Upwell, Wisbech, NORFOLK
Robert Wiles, 35, Farmer, NOT born in County
Mary Wiles, 30, born in County
Elizabeth, 3, born in County

Census 1851 - ref HO107 1767 480 17
Address - Northdelf, Upwell, Norfolk
Robert Wiles, 46, Farmer of 300 acres emp. 17 labs, born Elm, Cambridgeshire
Mary Wiles, 42, born Downham, Norfolk
Elizabeth 12, Sarah, 11, Charlotte 9, Lucy 8, William 3, Charles 3

Census 1841 - refHO107 79 13 9 1 2
Address - New Wisbech, Wisbech St Peter, Wisbech, CAMBRIDGESHIRE
Robert Wiles, 40 Bricklayer, born in County
Emma Wiles, 40, born in County
Martha 11, Emma 8, Edward 5, Georgiana 3, Harriet 0

Census 1851 - HO107 1766 515 19
Address - Prospect St, Wisbech St. Peter, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
Robert Wiles, 60**, Bricklayer, born Wisbech St Peter
Emma Wiles, 46, born Buckley(?), Bucks
Edwin 16, Georgiana 14, Harriot 9, Eliza 7, William 4

** Robert's age throwing a bit of a "wobbly" but clearly 60 on the sheet. Age on the '61 Census is 59 (oh for a bottle of that rejuvenating elixir).

If I was a betting man, and I don't think I'd get better than evens, my money would be on Robert, husband of Emma being the son of William and Martha.

[Susan Kitchen]

I'm looking for the parents of one of my ancestors by the name of Robert Wiles born 1802 Wisbech St Peter in Cambridgeshire. I know that Robert married Emma Pain and on the census his birth is recorded as above. I can't find Robert in the births /baptisms but there is a Robin Wiles Birth details same place same year. How likely is it that Robert and Robin are the same.
Thank you.

[Pam Downes]

Susan,

Duplicate threads about the same person are not allowed because it causes clutter and confusion, so I have moved your latest post about Robert Wiles to the original thread you created.

See our T&Cs, section 6.
https://www.british-genealogy.com/fo...conditions.php

Pam

[Sandyhall]

I'm hoping someone will be able to help as i'm in a dilemma at the moment. In my tree i have a Robert Wiles born about 1802. He married his wife Emma Pain in 1829. I have their marriage record and the Birth certificate of my Gt Gt Grandmother their daughter Eliza. But i want to get back from Robert. Unfortunately their are two one born about 1804 Elm Cambridgeshire Parents Cott and Elizabeth Wiles. There is also another Robert born about 1802 same place.
Two people on Ancestry public trees have done an awful of of work and have placed this Robert as the right one. His Parents are down and Martha Halifax and William Wiles. How can i make sure these two people have it right.
I would be grateful for any help.

What was your Robert Wiles occupation was it Bricklayer.

Is this the marriage of your Eliza 10 january 1869 to Alfred Wiles a widower in Bermondsey that i found

[Sandyhall]

What was your Robert Wiles occupation was it Bricklayer.

Is this the marriage of your Eliza 10 january 1869 to Alfred Wiles a widower in Bermondsey that i found

Its all right I found your tree on Ancestry