Searching for Great-Grandma

[grisel]

Victoria incoming unassisted passenger lists has an Arthur E Thomas arriving on the Oruba in 1905 who could be worth checking.

He was age 34 so probably not our man. A 29 yr old Ethel M French arrived in 1909 on the Runic, tho probably another coincidence.

[Sandyhall]

Hello Sandyhall, thank you for your reply.Walter Edward was born to Jenny Rossall on 7 Mar 1907. He was later "adopted " by a family called Barton,& used this name until he married Elizabeth Garnett in Feb 1926.He then said he wished to use his birth name from his mother,i.e. Rossall, & became Walter Edward Barton-Rossall. That is still the family name.
Many thanks

Yes I found your tree on anst...
I think the 1911 Jennie Maude Rossall is your lady. as there is no birth for a Jennie Maude

[grisel]

Ancestry have a private tree ,the Thomas family tree, which includes the Arthur Ernest b 1913 and siblings. The owner may - or may not - have information about the father Arthur Ernest senior.

[Jomot1]

There is a seaman named A Thomas born c1882 Birkenhead working aboard the ship Wyreema in 1910/1911 between Melbourne & Sydney by the looks of it, as a Greaser.

He's also aboard the Telamon in 1907 & 1908, departure port Glasgow Via Melbourne, to Sydney, and on one of the records for the Telamon, he's named as Arthur.

He's variously a Fireman, Trimmer & Greaser, although on the one where he's Arthur I can't quite make out the occupation.

Less certain are records aboard the S S Mararoa in 1903 which just says born England

[Jomot1]

Found another record for the Telamon - the occupation I couldn't make out was Donkeyman.

Fireman, Trimmer, Greaser, Donkeyman - they are all to do with the engine room.

Didn't his marriage to Jenny say he was a marine engineer, which would be true, but maybe sounds a bit more grand?

[Jomot1]

If the above records are correct and Arthur Ernest Thomas already had a wife in Australia when he married Jenny, then could she be the Jenny Rossall who married William Clowes in Manchester South in 1930? (Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended)

A Jenny Clowes, widow, aged 55 (born c1884) was buried at Anfield Cemetery on 31 Aug 1939, address 148 Ince Avenue. Section 21, Plot 704, purchased grave.

[Soozi-B]

Many thanks to everyone who has answered my brick wall question. All are very helpful & given me new lines to follow. Jomot1, you seem to have come up trumps again with the marriage certificate observation about Arthur's occupation,& the 1930 marriage. I have sent for a copy of the marriage certificate,so fingers crossed. I shall post details when I receive the certificate.
Many thanks again

[Soozi-B]

Many thanks again for help with finding Jenny Rossall. Jomot1 was right about the 1930 marriage - it was Jenny;I received the marriage certificate today which confirmed her identity.It is good to find out at last what had happened to her,& where she is buried. So grateful for all your help.