Farley family of London

[DoreenH]

Dear everyone,
hoping everyone is okay.

I am looking for :
1, Albert Farley born 1895 St. Pancras. listed in 1901 census with dad Robert, mum Elizabeth and sister Alice.

2. according to other trees, he had a brother William b.1892? St. Pancras but I cannot find him anywhere, either other census, married or deceased before 1901.

Robert died 1906, Elizabeth died 1907.
Alice married Mr. Parker and died 1956 Keningston.

What i am trying to find is: when did Albert travel to Australia and what happened to Willam.
thanking you
Doreenh

[helachau]

The General Register Office (GRO) has the birth registrations of
Ethel Mary Farley, Sep Qtr 1886, Lambeth, 1d 448
Elizabeth Mary A Farley, Sep 1887, Pancras, 1b 61
Edith Farley, Mar Qtr 1887, Pancras, 1b 58
Wilfrid Ernest Farley, Mar Qtr 1893, Lambeth, 1d 473
Alice Farley, Mar Qtr 1894, Pancras, 1b 70
Albert Farley, Mar 1897, Islington, 1b 342

all with the mother's maiden name of Tyler
Cannot spot a William Farley that would fit this family.

Marriage Registration
Robert Frederick Farley, Mar Qtr 1885, Pancras, 1b 194 - on the same page Elizabeth Charlotte Tyler.

Is this the family?

[suemalings]

[QUOTE=DoreenH;683659]Dear everyone,
hoping everyone is okay.

I am looking for :
1, Albert Farley born 1895 St. Pancras. listed in 1901 census with dad Robert, mum Elizabeth and sister Alice.

2. according to other trees, he had a brother William b.1892? St. Pancras but I cannot find him anywhere, either other census, married or deceased before 1901.

Robert died 1906, Elizabeth died 1907.
Alice married Mr. Parker and died 1956 Keningston.

What i am trying to find is: when did Albert travel to Australia and what happened to Willam.
thanking you

There is a tree on Ancestry with Albert Farley, born 1896 in St. Pancras, died 1968 in Highate. Father Robert Frederick, mother Elizabeth Tyler. There is also a William born in 1892 in St. Pancras but no further info. for him

[helachau]

1891 Census - ref. RG12 400 75 14

The family includes a an Ethel Farley, age 4, Herbert Farley age 7 and William age 2 - all born Lambeth. Parents are Thomas and Elizabeth Farley.
Ethel fits the Ethel Mary Farley, Lambeth, 1886, mother Tyler.
The GRO has birth registrations that fit Herbert and William - both with mother's maiden name Tyler.

Are you aware of the newspaper item in the Islington Gazette, 6 May 1898, where a Robert Farley, age 32, musician, was accused of neglecting his wife and 4 children (not named)

[Pam Downes]

The General Register Office (GRO) has the birth registrations of
Ethel Mary Farley, Sep Qtr 1886, Lambeth, 1d 448
Elizabeth Mary A Farley, Sep 1887, Pancras, 1b 61
Edith Farley, Mar Qtr 1887, Pancras, 1b 58
Wilfrid Ernest Farley, Mar Qtr 1893, Lambeth, 1d 473
Alice Farley, Mar Qtr 1894, Pancras, 1b 70
Albert Farley, Mar 1897, Islington, 1b 342

all with the mother's maiden name of Tyler
Cannot spot a William Farley that would fit this family.
birth registration looked out of place
Marriage Registration
Robert Frederick Farley, Mar Qtr 1885, Pancras, 1b 194 - on the same page Elizabeth Charlotte Tyler.

Is this the family?

I thought that birth registration looked out of place, Lambeth being south of the river, while Pancras and Islington are north.
I was right to be suspicious. Marriage 10 September 1882, Thomas Farley (occupation, horse-keeper) and Elizabeth Tyler at St Mary's, Lambeth.
Baptism 3 March 1893, at Lambeth All Saints, Wilfred Ernest Farley, son of Thomas, a horse-keeper, and Elizabeth.

There was a William James R Farley birth registration Pancras 1884, but his mother's maiden name was Simmons. The William Farleys registered in Islington 1893 and Holborn 1895 do not have Tyler as mother's maiden name.

Pam

[Pam Downes]

1891 Census - ref. RG12 400 75 14

The family includes a an Ethel Farley, age 4, Herbert Farley age 7 and William age 2 - all born Lambeth. Parents are Thomas and Elizabeth Farley.
Ethel fits the Ethel Mary Farley, Lambeth, 1886, mother Tyler.
The GRO has birth registrations that fit Herbert and William - both with mother's maiden name Tyler.

Are you aware of the newspaper item in the Islington Gazette, 6 May 1898, where a Robert Farley, age 32, musician, was accused of neglecting his wife and 4 children (not named)

Completely different family to Doreen's. See my post #5, which I was slowly and carefully typing while you were playing Speedy Gonzales.

Pam

[Pamelawagster]

Robert Farley - Street musician
Elizabeth Farley
Alice & Albert are in St Pancras workhouse in 1903.

No William though.

Robert admitted 24 th Feb ,Elizabeth & children 12th March.

48 Clarendon St

[Pam Downes]

Robert Farley - Street musician
Elizabeth Farley
Alice & Albert are in St Pancras workhouse in 1903.

No William though.

Robert admitted 24 th Feb ,Elizabeth & children 12th March.

48 Clarendon St

That's bcause, in my opinion, William is either a figment of someone's imagination or wishful thinking (as in 'found a William' and just attached him to a family with the same surname')

Pam

[Pamelawagster]

1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 1119; Folio: 27; Page: 8; GSU roll: 6096229

There’s a Robert Farley ( mistranscribed as Karley ) & a William Farley both musicians who are prisoners in a police station in Watford!

[helachau]

Agreed - I wasn't offering them as the same family. Rather that the births would take some unpicking