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    Default ISAAC LEVY c 1781-c1850-POSSIBLE WIFE ABIGAIL

    This new thread is part of ongoing research in collaboration with a distant cousin into Isaac Levy c 1781 who may have married Abigail last name unknown. This line links to the marriage in 1850 of John Levy son of Isaac to Hannah Crawcour- Synagogue Scribes Marriages GSMa 112/12 Hannah CRAWCOUR ( Hebrew name Hendela)father's Hebrew name Aharon - 10 November 1850- John Levy father's Hebrew name Isaac Ha Levi.

    The 1841 Census (Copyright TNA)HO107 725 1 10 13 20 10
    3 Cooks Buildings Aldersgate Middlesex has Isaac Levy with various other Levy recorded.
    Isaac Levy 60 General Dealer born in county
    JOHN LEVY 25 General Dealer
    Samuel Levy 17 General Dealer
    Henry Levy 4
    Phillip Levy 9
    Lewis Levy 14
    Jane Levy 28
    Sarah Levy 32
    Abigail Levy 55

    All above born in county.

    The 1841 Census usually ( but not always consistent) rounded down by 5 years after 15 years of age so the above ages may not be accurate dob.
    The questions arise are:
    1 Are the above the children of Isaac Levy?
    2 Is Abigail the wife of Isaac?
    3 Are there 2 separate families recorded given the difference in ages of the above?

    The 1841 Census does not record family relationships and there are numbers of Ancestry family trees which record the death of Abigail Levy in 1843.
    Further research shows that there was an Abigail Levy who died in 1843 and my distant cousin holds a copy of her GRO Death Certificate. The certificate records her husband as Mordecai Levy not Isaac. There are several newspaper articles which record the death of Abigail Levy including her inquest. Bells Weekly Messenger Sat 7 Jan 1843 records that Abigail Levy aged 74 wife of Mordecai Levy 2 Goodwins Buildings Wentworth Street died in a fire.

    This data suggests that Abigail Levy who is recorded with Isaac Levy in 1841 is a different person to the one who died in 1843. It is likely that Abigail Levy who died in 1843 is:
    Synagogue Scribes Marriage Records
    GSM103/51
    Abigail Levy father's Hebrew name Leibel Beker married Mordecai Levy father's Hebrew name Aharon Levy 26 August 1806.

    It is possible that the GRO Death Index record for an Abigail Levy Dec qtr 1858 Whitechapel 1c 273 maybe the same person who appears in the 1841 Census with Isaac. In addition, there are several GRO Death Index Records for an Isaac Levy between 1841-1850. Copies of these records are needed to confirm relationships and ages.

    The 1851 Anglo Jewry Data base - JewishGen UK Data bases records 2 possible children of Isaac Levy. Jane Levy ID 6017 father Isaac but mother not named. She is recorded as marrying Hyam Hyams Gt Synagogue 5 Sept 1847.

    There is also Samuel Levy ID11276 father Isaac mother not listed married Julia Isaacs 30 Oct 1858.
    GSMa 112/10-Samuel Levy father's Hebrew name Isaac Ha Levi -Julia Isaacs father's Hebrew name Joseph Ha Levi 30 Oct 1850

    I will post further.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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    It is possible that the GRO Death Index record for an Abigail Levy Dec qtr 1858 Whitechapel 1c 273 maybe the same person who appears in the 1841 Census with Isaac
    No, not her, Phillip.

    LEVY, ABIGAIL, age at death 17
    GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 273
    Alma

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    Many thanks Alma for the information on Abigail Levy died 1858. Is there any other ages for Isaac Levy died between 1841-51 and for Abigail Levy same period or later?

    Any thoughts on whether or not there are 2 families of Levy in the 1841 Census welcome. My thoughts are that the older Levy are the children of Isaac but not the younger ones. In addition, the wife was usually recorded below the husband but not consistently and if so, is Abigail the wife of Isaac?

    There is another issue- in the 1851 Anglo Jewry Census on JewishGen UK Data bases it is very difficult to identify any of the Levy recorded in the 1841 Census as having a father named Isaac- I have posted a couple of the names but can't currently locate others. Petra Laidlaw who wrote the data base did not put any names of individuals who had died pre 1851 except for the names of parents if known but no other data.

    In the case of the two Levy she recorded in 1851 there is no mother named which suggests Petra did not have data on the wife of Isaac Levy such as a Synagogue Marriage record.

    Any comments on the above welcome.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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    Phillip. this seems a good fit for Isaac Levy.

    LEVY, ISAAC 70
    GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 647

    I haven't found a likely one for Abigail, there's one in Hendon about the right age but unless she was staying with someone there it's unlikely.

    LEVY, ABIGAIL 70
    GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 39
    Alma

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    Thank you Alma. Currently, I am trying to trace the individuals recorded in the Isaac Levy 1841 Census household. My distant Crawcour cousin has a marriage certificate for Samuel Levy who married Julia Isaacs in 1850. However, the name John deceased and not Isaac is recorded as the father of Samuel and Julia is a minor. The address is 1 Wentworth Street Spitalfields. I have yet to see a copy of the marriage so can't comment on the accuracy of data.

    The following census data refers to Samuel Levy=Julia Isaacs. I can't locate the couple in the 1851 Census so any help tracing them would be appreciated. Petra Laidlaw in the 1851 Anglo Jews data base has them at 1 Cook's Buildings HO 107 1524 017 but I can't see them on Ancestry but may well have overlooked them.

    1861 Census (Copyright TNA) RG9 210 10 14
    39 Petticoat Lane St Botolph Aldgate Middx
    Samuel LEVY H M 38 General Dealer b Aldgate Middx
    Julia wife 32 b Aldgate
    Joseph son 9 b Aldgate
    Isaac son 3 b Aldgate
    Julia Levy? u 21 Servant b Ireland
    Abraham PHILLIPS Nephew 12 b Aldgate
    Sarah PHILLIPS Niece 15 b Aldgate
    Leah ISAACS Mother in law widow 92 b Aldgate

    1871 Census (Copyright TNA)RG10 412 10 13

    39 1/2 Petticoat Lane Aldgate London
    Samuel Levy H M 45? Greengrocer b London Middx
    Julia wife 38 b London Middx
    Adelaide dau u 17
    Joseph son 15 Scholar
    Isaac son 12
    Philip son 9
    Leah ISAACS Mother in law widow Independent 98 b Aldagte
    All above born London Middx
    1 servant+ 1 Shopman

    By 1881 Julia is a widow. This maybe the GRO Death Index for Samuel Levy Sept qtr 1878 Age 57 Lambeth 1d 246

    1881 Census (Copyright TNA)
    79 Lower Marsh Lambeth London

    Julia Levy Widow 54 Fruiterer b Aldgate Middx
    Adelaide ABRAHAMS dau Married 27 Fruiterer b Aldgate
    Joseph Levy son u 24 Fruiterer b Aldgate
    Harry son 19 Fruiterer b Aldgate
    Phillip son 16 Fruiterer b Aldgate

    Nb There is at least Ancestry public tree which has Samuel dying in USA post 1881 but this is based on wrong data and cross checking.

    1901 Census (Copyright TNA)RG13 249 120 1
    5 Aylesbury Street Clerkenwell London
    Philip Levy H single 39 Fruiterer Green grocer b Aldgate
    Adelaide ABRAHAMS sister widow 49 b Aldgate
    Jane ABRAHAMS Niece s 25 b Lambeth
    Julia ABRAHAMS niece s 20 Feather Sewer Quill b Lambeth
    John ABRAHAMS nephew s 19 Carman b Aldgate

    1911 Census (Copyright TNA) RG14 1238
    18 Meredith Street Clerkenwell London
    Philip Levy H Single 46 Fruiterer Assistant worker b Aldgate
    Nancy ABRAHAMS Niece single 24 Feather Curler b Houndsditch
    2 Rooms

    In the case of John Levy who married Hannah Crawcour The Jewish Chronicle has DEATH 26.8.1866 after a long and protracted illness, MRS HANNAH LEVY, youngest daughter of the late Henry CRAWCOUR, aged 37....
    John Levy re-married in 1882.
    Register Office Hackney 6 August 1882

    JOHN LEVY Full age widower Fruiterer 50 Horning Lane Hackney father ISAAC LEVY deceased Commercial Traveller
    EMMA EDWARDS Full age spinster 50 Horning Lane Nb There are no details of her father or his occupation.
    Witnesses- John AKERMAN; ELLEN LIPTON.

    There were further children from this marriage and I will post data.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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    This post relates to Hyam Hyams who married Jane Levy in 1847 Great Synagogue Records Synagogue Scribes GSMa 071/83. The GRO marriage certificate should indicate whether or not Jane is the daughter of Isaac Levy and is the same Jane Levy as per the 1841 Census previously posted on.

    1851 Census (Copyright TNA)HO107 1543 185 12
    Dinah Buildings Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex
    HYAM HYAMS H M 34 Fishmonger b Aldgate
    Jane wife 37 b Aldgate
    Catherine dau 3 b Aldgate
    Adelaide dau 2 b Spitalfields

    1861 (Copyright TNA)RG9 264 32 6
    8 Lardners Buildings Spitalfields Middx
    Hyam Hyams H M 45 Fishmonger b Spitalfields
    Jane wife 47
    Catherine dau 13 Tailoress
    Hadley? dau 13 Scholar
    Leah dau 11
    All above born Spitalfields

    1871 Census ( Copyright TNA) RG10 503 31 19
    8 Lardners Buildings Christchurch Spitalfields London
    Hyam Hyams H M 7 Fishmonger b Aldgate
    Jane wife 62 b Aldgate
    Adelaide dau u 21 Tailoress b Spitalfields
    Leah u 18 b Spitalfields

    1881 (Copyright TNA) RG11 437 99 32
    8 Lardners Buildings Spitalfields London
    Hyan Hyams H M 66 Fishmonger b City
    Jane wife 68 b City
    Addle dau u 28 Tailoress b Spitalfields
    Leah dau u 26 no occupation b Spitalfields

    GRO Death Index Record
    Jane Hyams March qtr 1886 age 72 Whitechapel 1c 258

    Hyam Hyams March qtr 1891 age 78 Whitechapel 1c 223
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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    Any thoughts on whether or not there are 2 families of Levy in the 1841 Census welcome. My thoughts are that the older Levy are the children of Isaac but not the younger ones. In addition, the wife was usually recorded below the husband but not consistently and if so, is Abigail the wife of Isaac?
    Phillip, some enumerators did list first the males in the household followed by the females and this seems to be the case here. Usually, though the people are listed in age order which isn't the case here. Difficult to know whether Abigail is Isaac's wife.

    Henry is age 11, not 4.

    I lean towards two different families.

    ETA: by usually I mean in this case the males first in age order, same for the females.
    Last edited by almach; 06-04-2020 at 3:17 AM. Reason: clarification
    Alma

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    Thank you Alma for your thoughts regarding the Isaac Levy family. More research is needed into the lines.
    The following are the 2 GRO Marriage Certificates for Samuel and John Levy:

    The Great Synagogue St James Duke Street London
    SAMUEL LEVY Full Bachelor Dealer 1 Wentworth Street Spitalfields father ISAAC LEVY deceased
    JULIA ISAACS Minor Spinster 1 Wentworth Street Spitalfields father JOSEPH ISAACS Fishmonger

    Witnesses- Simon Acher;L E Pyke;Simeon Oppenheimer Secretary Great Synagogue
    Married by N Adler Chief Rabbi

    Nb Both Samuel and Julia signed with a mark

    Great Synagogue St James Duke Street
    10 November 1850

    JOHN LEVY Full Bachelor Fruiterer 53 Gun Street Spitalfields father ISAAC LEVY Deceased
    HANNAH CRAWCOUR Full Spinster 53 Gun Street Spitalfields father HENRY CRAWCOUR Deceased
    Nb Both John and Hannah signed with a mark

    Witnesses- Mark Menes? Hyam Jonas -Simeon Oppenheimer Secretary of the Great Synagogue
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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    The following 1841 and 1851 Census records relate to the Isaacs and Levy families previously posted on.
    1841 Census (Copyright TNA)HO 107 710 14 5 18 3 20
    Wentworth Street St Botolph Aldgate
    The Levy and Isaacs families are living either in the same house or very close proximity.
    JOSEPH ISAACS 60 Greengrocer born in county
    Leah Isaacs 55
    Ester Isaacs 20
    JULIA Isaacs 16
    Moses Isaacs 17
    All born in county.
    The above maybe the parents and siblings of Julia Isaacs who married Samuel Levy
    Same or adjoining property but all listed under the Isaacs line.

    The following Isaacs and Levy in Wentworth Street the same house or very close in Petticoat Lane who may or may not be related to the other families.

    LEWIS LEVY 30
    Sarah Levy 40
    Mark Levy 11
    Elias Levy 10
    ? Levy male 5
    Julia Levy 3
    David Levy 2 born Ireland?
    All others born in county
    Petticoat Lane
    ISAAC ISAACS 45 Fishmonger
    Sarah Isaacs 40
    solomon Isaacs 14
    Wolf Isaacs 1o
    Ann Isaacs 12
    Julia Isaacs 4
    Mary Isaacs 1
    All born in county

    1851 Census (Copyright TNA) HO107 1524 17 27
    These are the lines who appear in the 1851 Anglo Jewry Data base JewishGen UK Data bases as connected through the marriage of Samuel Levy to Julia Isaacs.

    3 Cooks Buildings St Botolph Aldgate
    JOSEPH ISAACS Lodger M 72 General Dealer b Middx Whitechapel
    Leah wife 68 b Middx Whitechapel

    1 Cooks Buildings St Botolph Aldgate
    SAMUEL LEVY H M 43 General Dealer b Aldgate
    Julia wife 18 b Aldgate

    Further research is needed to confirm the above 1841 Isaacs and Levy as relatives of Samuel Levy=Julia Isaacs.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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    The following earlier threads relate to the Levy/Crawcour/Foley and associated families:
    Louisa Nathan/Foley nee Crawcour 1828-1918 started 27.12.2011
    Noah and Michael Aarons started 6.12.2011
    Henry Levi-Glass Cutter;Philip/Morris Levi started 28.4.2012.

    This post relates to John Levy and his two families through marriages.
    In the 1851 Census John Levy and his wife Hannah Levy nee Crawcour are at 53 Gun Street but John is named as Thomas:
    1851 Census ( Copyright TNA) HO107 1543 24 40
    53 Gun Street Old Artillery Ground Middlesex
    THOMAS LEVY H M 30 General Dealer b Middx Aldgate
    Hannah wife 22 Furrier b Middx Old Artillery Ground
    Adelaide dau 3 b Middx Old Artillery Ground
    Henry son 2 mths b Middx Old Artillery Ground

    This maybe Henry Levy son of John/Hannah in 1871:
    (Crown Copyright TNA )RG10 503 33 24
    3 ?Tuson Court Christchurch Spitalfields
    Henry Levy Lodger u 20 Salesman (Clothes) b ...field?
    In house of Mordecai Simmons

    Possibly Henry Levy:
    1881 (Copyright TNA)RG11 437 27 6
    77 Brushfield Street Spitalfields
    Henry Levy H M 30 Fruit Salesman b Spitalfields
    Mary Ann wife 25 b Chiswick
    Nathan son 7 b Spitalfields
    Hannah dau 5
    Louisa dau 2
    Martha dau 9 mths
    All born Spitalfields
    Elizabeth Cook visitor u 35 b Bethnal Green
    +1 servant

    By 1881 John Levy had re-married to Emma Edwards. This is his second family and also with Isaac the son from his first marriage.
    (Copyright TNA) RG10 358 14 22
    50 Morning Lane Hackney London
    John Levy H M 50 Fruiterer b Middx Spitalfields
    Emma wife 30 b Middx Hackney
    ISAAC u 27 Fruiterer b Hackney
    Chas son 8 b Hackney
    Arthur son 7 b Hackney
    Annie dau 3 b Hackney
    Rose Edwards servant 13 b Suffolk Bacton Mills

    In 1871 Adelaide Levy daughter of John Levy/Hannah Crawcour is living with her Foley in laws:
    (Copyright TNA)RG10 358 14 22
    15 and 16 Panton Street St Martin in the Fields London

    15 Panton Street CATHERINE CRAWCOUR H W 65 Stationer b Whitechapel
    16 Panton Street
    JOHN FOLEY H M 46 Refreshment House Keeper b Camden Town
    Louisa wife 44 b Spitalfields
    Lizzie dau 20 u Professional b Spitalfields
    Nathaniel son u 17 Glover and Perfumer b Spitalfields
    Louisa Evans visitor u 21 Professional
    ADELAIDE LEVY niece u 20 Professional b Spitalfields
    Polly Harkham visitor u 19 Professional b Spitalfields

    Louisa Foley is the sister of Hannah Crawcour. Their mother Catherine is living next door to Louisa and John Foley. There is no evidence that Louisa married John Foley.

    I will post further.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

    "The only true dead are those who have been forgotten"

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