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    Dom2
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    Many thanks Phillip.

    Re: Sarah - I'm sure I read her father's name was Lazarus - buried at Bowden Street Cemetry in 1833. I've searched and searched but can't find any reference to back this up. I must, however, have seen this as I've added his entry from Pigot's National Directory - North England & North Wales (1828) - 49 Westbar, Sheffield.

    I notice that one grandson is named Elezear so my initial research was incorrect.

    Yes, I think the 1900 census must be them and Sarah & Henry were separated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom2 View Post
    Marion (there is a birth for Marion Ada in 1871, but I can't be certain this is her)
    I think it is likely to be her, in 1881 she is recorded as 'Marion A'. I am pretty sure that the following links are your family but I have no explanation for the name and age anomalies.

    Two deaths.....

    Marion BAKER in 1930

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24MH-3S4

    Evelyn JACOBS in 1932

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W27-J22

    They are both in the same cemetery.

    1930 census, Marion BAKER, with sisters Evelyn and Estelle, Evelyn's occupation matches the death record.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...:33SQ-GRZX-J6G

    1920 census, Marion with husband Richard, children George, Marion and Dorothy, and sisters Evelyn and Estelle.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...33SQ-GRFC-9H8W

    1910 census, Marion BAKER with her sisters as boarders and her children as siblings. The women are all single and say they immigrated in 1900.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...:33SQ-GRVT-3MK

    Marion is 'Marion Ada' on the births of her daughters.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WCC-Q9D
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WZB-NVB

    George Joseph's death, I doubt that Richard BAKER was his father with such a large gap between him and the two girls.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WPW-JLL

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    Dundee and Dom
    It looks as if Evelyn and Marion are buried in a Catholic Cemetery- am I right? The name changes and differences in dob are common features in family research and I have these among many of my lines. It also depends on who is giving the information to the census recorder or on death records.
    It also appears that individuals were marrying out of the Jewish faith and this would be worth confirming.

    Dom- Is this your Lazarus aka Eleazer Cohen- Sheffield Directory 1833 Lazarus Cohen Gold and silver refiners, jewellers and watchmakers 48 Westbar
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

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    Thank you Dundee10, firstly for your research and secondly for introducing me to The Family Search site which I now discover is free. I've always used Ancestry which is not giving me the same results as Family Search.
    Re: Evelyn - I concur, her parents match mine.
    Re: Marion - I'm not sure, primarily because Estelle is not recorded in any UK census pertaining to Henry & Sarah Jacobs. She is also missing from the 1884 arrival document & the 1900 US census in which all children are present excepting Marcus.
    I'll continue onwards, but again many thanks.

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    Phillip

    Hmmm, the Catholic bit has thrown me.


    In Pigots Lazarus is a clothier, his son Solomon was a woolen draper/clothier. That said, Solomon married Miriam Hart whose grandfather George Alexander was a silversmith.

    The two outstanding lay leaders...George Alexander, silversmith, and Bethel Jacobs, jeweller...In 1854 Alexander's granddaughter married Solomon Cohen of Sheffield, a clothier, who later combined a prominent position in the Hull Synagogue with service on the Town Council. (Hull by Israel Finstein)

    I don't know.

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    Dom
    A small aside- have you seen Synagogue Scribes Will Extracts-Rosy Lyon NA 938 Probate 1845- daughter Esther Jacobs wife of Bethel Jacobs silversmith of Hull and Moses Alexander NA025 Probate 1854 siblings George Alexander and Hannah Hart.

    The records I posted on Sarah Jacobs, Marcus and Henry Jacobs were all from the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) Familysearch site. My apologies, I normally say what sites I research.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

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    Phillip, no need to apologize, I just can't believe that after nearly 8 years researching my family that I didn't know about Familysearch. It appears to be a very useful resource, especially for those who are unable to afford the prices asked by non-free sites.

    No, I haven't looked at that will. My primary interest is in the Cohens of Hull who were thought to be related to my Cohen ancestor Barnett. I don't have any proof for this, only a letter written by my 1st cousin 3 times removed who was also my great great uncle by marriage, George Judah Cohen (of NSW). In it he states that Dr. George Alexander Cohen (coroner) is a relative. Secondly, a Solomon Cohen of Hull (who we believe to be the father of Dr. George) is an attendee at the funeral of my great x3 uncle David Lewis (formerly Levy & founder of Lewis's department store in Liverpool)and is described as a relative.

    There are very few descendants of this Cohen family, all being from the marriage of Leah Cohen(d of Lazarus/Elezear) to Julius Rogaly - a great grandson of Leah's, Joe Rogaly (a well known journalist) married Susan Violet Baring (see Burke's Peerage).

    I don't think Henry & Sarah Jacobs have any living descendants, as previously stated I've ruled out Marion Baker for various reasons.

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    Dom
    I don't know if the following is of any help regarding the Cohen/Lewis aka Levy relationships but see Synagogue Scribes Will Extracts David Lewis (Levy) NA 1521 in which various Cohen relatives are named including George Judah Cohen who was brother in law of Benjamin Wolfe Levy- see also The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser NSW Thur 28 July 1892 in which Benjamin Wolfe Levy refers to his brother in law Mr George J Cohen of Sydney Source Australian Newspaper Archives.
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

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    Dom
    When we first began looking at the Cohen of Hull I did not have access to the Jewish Chronicle Archives 1841-to present. I now have full access and have started to re-visit the Cohen/Lewis et al lines as a help to you.
    I can confirm that George Judah Cohen who appears in the probate of David Lewis aka Levy was recorded as his nephew. David Lewis had no children and the JC refer to his wife as daughter of Rev I Cohen of Sussex House Dover.
    Will look further
    Phillip-Jewish,British Ancestry

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    Phillip,

    I know all my Cohen/Levy family, the respective wives of Barnett Cohen & Wolfe Levy (from whom I descend) Sierlah & Mata were sisters thus all descendants are related.

    Rev. Cohen of Dover was actually born Freundlich.See article
    https://matt-houghton.squarespace.co...lewis-ne-cohen

    David & Bertha Levy had no children so several of his Cohen / Levy nephews, including my great grandfather Eliot Levy (born NSW - son of Lewis Wolfe Levy & Julia Solomon)
    came back to the UK to manage Lewis's which by then had many branches dotted across the North of England and would later include Selfridges.

    My t'other great grandfather David Cohen, his brother Samuel (their respective wives, Julia & Rachel Nathan were also sisters and relate to The Glaxo Nathans; the Nathan costumiers,
    as well as The Beddingtons and Joseph Family of NSW & NZ) and his cousin Lewis Wolfe Levy were in business together as "David Cohen & Co".
    Several Cohens then married their Levy second cousins - one of these marriages included my great grandparents Eliot Levy & Annette Cohen (daughter of David), another
    Louis Samuel Cohen (lord mayor of Liverpool & head of Lewis's) & Martha Levy, one of their sons was Maj, Sir Jack Brunel Cohen who lost both his legs
    at Ypres and co-founded the British Legion.

    So, yes I'm surprised I was born with only one head. But as you probably know Australia had a very small Jewish population and marriages
    between cousins were encouraged. This was also the case with Anglo Jewish families (see The Cousinhood).

    The Cohen/Levy/Nathan/Solomon (from whom I descend) can be seen here
    https://adb.anu.edu.au/treeview/20425

    The Solomon lot now have a dedicated one
    https://oa.anu.edu.au/treeview/19706

    N.B. I was in contact with them during their Solomon research. They were only interested
    in the Australian branches, so the UK branches are missing.

    I don't think it's possible to prove a link between my Cohens & The Cohens of Hull, but my hunch
    is they were related so I've added them to my tree.

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