William Creed b 1846-1848 Cirencester?

[Pam Downes]

Sorry, this was what I reading it from. https://www.
ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5156/41511_636897_2029-00154?pid=149226&backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/162297148/person/282115779836/gallery&usePUB=true&_phsrc=caF4474&usePUBJs=true (not sure the link will work, hopefully it will)

I've ruled out Ann as the dates now don't match up

That's a marriage certificate.
If you read the first line in the box it says 'marriage solemnized at .....'

'Live' links to commercial companies are not allowed, so I've split the URL.

Pam

[Sandyhall]

daughter Alice Maud Birth
Births Jun 1875
Alice Maud CREEd. Cirencester. Vol 6a. Page 379

Mothers Maiden Name - Curtis

Frances Emily Harvey Creed

Births Mar 1871
Creed Frances Emily H Cirencester 6a 371

MMN Curtis

Births Sep 1877
CREED Emily Florence Cirencester 6a 374

MMN Curtis

[Pam Downes]

Name: Louisa Smith
[Louisa Row]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 30
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1867
Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1897
Marriage Place: Cheltenham, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Cheltenham
Father: Leighton Row
Spouse: William Creed

Leighton Row was the street they lived on, her fathers name was Joseph Smith

I suspect that Sandyhall copied what was in the index.
Thereby highlighting the perils of relying purely on an index.

Pam

[Sandyhall]

Someone has put Louisa Row under Louise Smith this is on Ancestry but I could not access it to see who had added it

[blacklace]

I think I've figured it out...

The 1861 census has a William Creed (aged 11) living with an Alexander Creed and Mary Creed in Kempsford (which isn't a million miles from Cirencester.

I have found a William Creed and Mary Willis wedding in 1836. Married at Shrivenham, Berks. Mary is of Bourton (again, not too far from Cirencester)

[blacklace]

and from that I found out I'm Jon and Dan Snow's 7th Cousin 1x removed

[Jomot1]

That doesn't make sense to me. Alexander Creed was still alive in the 1871 census and living in Kempsford. If he was 'your' William's father then surely William would know his name?

[Jomot1]

I haven't worked this through so it may be a complete red herring, but as William was a widower I looked for deaths of a female prior to his marriage to Louisa and found a death in Q1 1891 in Cheltenham of an Isabel Creed aged 43.

I think she was actually Maria Isabella Stephens, and in November 1871 there is a marriage in Cheltenham to William Creed, bachelor, labourer, aged 32 (c1839). William's father is again blank.

In 1881 he says he is 40 (1841) but by 1891 he is only 44 (1847)

The age is obviously all over but possibly fits with the William Creed aged 9 in the Cirencester workhouse in 1851.

[Sandyhall]

Pam yes that was the index I posted but I did see the Orrignial page which dose say Smith so the index is wrong

[Sandyhall]

I checked out the MMN on some of the children

Florence Ellen Creed 1882 Dec 1/4 • Cheltenham, Gloucestershire mmn Smith.

Charles Henry Creed 1909 June 1/4 • Cheltenham, Gloucestershire mmn Smith