Hi guys, apologies I have another one.
I'm struggling to find my great grandfather history.
He was born William Creed in Cirencester (according to banns) between 1846-1849
He was married twice, first to Ann Creed (b 1849?)who passed away (unknown date)
Then to Louisa Smith (my Great Grandmother) in 1899.
Both Banns say that he didn't know who his father or what his occupation was.
The only serious link I have is that his father was possibly John Creed born in 1810 (wife Mary Sangar, 1817). But they moved (including William) to Australia in 1861. but there is no record of William coming back!
Any help you could provide would be awesome.
Thanks
Mark
Results 1 to 10 of 34
-
23-08-2019, 8:58 AM #1
- Join Date
- Aug 2019
- Location
- Grimsby
- Posts
- 37
William Creed b 1846-1848 Cirencester?
-
23-08-2019, 9:17 AM #2
- Join Date
- Feb 2009
- Location
- Liverpool
- Posts
- 819
Looks like you have a choice
William Creed Mar 1846 Cirencester 11 273 mmn Sanger
William Creed Dec 1849 Cirencester 11 249 mmn Willis
Emeltee
-
23-08-2019, 9:20 AM #3
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- NORTHAMPTONSHIRE, ENGLAND
- Posts
- 3,216
Name: William Creed
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 25
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1845
Marriage Date: 27 Mar 1870
Marriage Place: Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England
Spouse: Ann Curtis
Volume: 6a
Page: 508
-
23-08-2019, 9:48 AM #4
- Join Date
- Aug 2019
- Location
- Grimsby
- Posts
- 37
This is the census from 1911 showing that he was living with my Great Grandmother
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWM9-BYH
Which makes me think that he was born in 1949 and his mothers name was willis (where are you getting his mmn from btw??)
This leads me to think Ann Curtis wasn't his first wife, so who was?? There wasn't another wedding with his name/birthdate, and he said he was a widower on the banns for Louisa.
I might be missing something obvious
-
23-08-2019, 10:02 AM #5
- Join Date
- Oct 2004
- Location
- England
- Posts
- 9,629
I'm going to be very nit-picky here, but it's important that you learn correct definitions, and exactly what documents do/don't tell you.
I'm struggling to find my great grandfather history.
He was born William Creed in Cirencester (according to banns) between 1846-1849
He was married twice, first to Ann Creed (b 1849?)who passed away (unknown date)
Then to Louisa Smith (my Great Grandmother) in 1899.
Both Banns say that he didn't know who his father or what his occupation was.
The only serious link I have is that his father was possibly John Creed born in 1810 (wife Mary Sangar, 1817). But they moved (including William) to Australia in 1861. but there is no record of William coming back!
Any help you could provide would be awesome.
Thanks
Mark
Do you have the marriage certificates?
These will say where the marriage took place, when, whether the bride and groom were bachelor, spinster, widowed or divorced. There's space for addresses, occupations, and names and occupations of their fathers.
And underneath those boxes space for signatures of the bride and groom, witnesses, and the officiating minister/Registrar.
If you have those documents, what are the details?
Have you found William and Ann, and then William and Louisa in the censues?
Where are they living? What are their ages in the census, and who are their children?
Do you have the census references (they look something like RG11/1224 folio 10 page 15).
The more correct information you give us, the more we can accurately help, without saying 'there's this possibility. Or it could be that one'.
PamVulcan XH558 - “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
-
23-08-2019, 10:10 AM #6
- Join Date
- Oct 2004
- Location
- England
- Posts
- 9,629
A word of warning first of all.
Re the 1911 census. Transcriptions and indexes are very useful, but you should always refer to the original document.
I had problems with a great-grandfather and his father in the 1881 census. According to the transcription, the father wasn't old enough to be the father, if you know what I mean. However, when I learnt that you needed to always look at the original, I found that the age was 59, not 39 as indexed, so he was old enough to be the father.
Also, never rely on one census for a person's age and birthplace. To say they can be subject to variation is sometimes an understatement.
Mother's maiden names can be found in the GRO Historical births index.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Ages at death 1837-1866, missing from the original GRO Index, can be found in the Historical deaths index.
PamVulcan XH558 - “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
-
23-08-2019, 10:14 AM #7
- Join Date
- Aug 2019
- Location
- Grimsby
- Posts
- 37
-
23-08-2019, 10:15 AM #8
- Join Date
- Aug 2019
- Location
- Grimsby
- Posts
- 37
Sorry, this was what I reading it from. https://www.
ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5156/41511_636897_2029-00154?pid=149226&backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/162297148/person/282115779836/gallery&usePUB=true&_phsrc=caF4474&usePUBJs=true (not sure the link will work, hopefully it will)
I've ruled out Ann as the dates now don't match up
-
23-08-2019, 10:16 AM #9
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Location
- NORTHAMPTONSHIRE, ENGLAND
- Posts
- 3,216
Name: Louisa Smith
[Louisa Row]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 30
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1867
Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1897
Marriage Place: Cheltenham, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Cheltenham
Father: Leighton Row
Spouse: William Creed
-
23-08-2019, 10:28 AM #10
- Join Date
- Aug 2019
- Location
- Grimsby
- Posts
- 37
Helping you trace your British Family History & British Genealogy.
All times are GMT. The time now is 9:55 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5
Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.
Bookmarks