In 1851 David and Charlotte are with 2 of their children Elizabeth age 12 and Frances age 8. On the GRO index Frances birth reg is IOW March 1/4 1843 mmn Rayner.
Nothing to tie this couple in with your Eliza as yet.
Christina
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14-06-2019, 5:10 AM #11Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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14-06-2019, 6:18 AM #12
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I may as well start with a stupid question.
I think that in the US you count 'greats' in a different way to us Brits.
I have
me
my mum Mary
her mum Elizabeth - who is my grandmother
her mum Rebecca - who is my great-grandmother
her mum Jane - who is my great-great-grandmother (2x great-grandmother)
her mum Ann - who is my great-great-great grandmother (3x great-grandmother)
Is that how you've counted back to Eliza?
The reason for asking is to try and find out how close your grandmother was to the Rayner surname. Do you know if she did any family history research, or is it definitely 'repeated down the family'? You don't say whether your grandmother was born in the US or England, but do you have her birth certificate, and then marriage and birth certificates for her parents, and, in turn, their parents? Thereby proving the link back to Jacob and Eliza. (Re-reading another of your posts, I'm assuming your link goes back to Ellen Maria Rayner who married Henry Bushell in 1870.)
In the censuses Eliza is consistent with her age. (Some people's ages vary wildly - they're 20 in one census, 25 in the next, 37 in the next, so they can be more difficult to trace.)
1841 - she's 25.
1851 - she's 35
1861 - she's 45
1871 - she's 54
1881 - she's 65
Jacob wavers a bit, being 25, 38, 47, 55, 66 respectively.
This puts Eliza's year of birth about 1816. See this post, and the baptism information in the link.
I don't understand how DNA works but you could still be connected to David and Charlotte and their daughter Eliza if the two Eliza's are cousins.
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14-06-2019, 12:12 PM #13
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14-06-2019, 12:38 PM #14
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Thank yo so much for this, Found Jacob and Elizabeth? will have to find out about her as am now questioning her name... It is giving me plenty to do this Autumn.
Aynnie
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14-06-2019, 1:02 PM #15
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Hi Pam:
I counted back the way that you showed, and it was oral history, My Grandmother was born in New Zealand to Robert Taylor who was the son of Samuel Taylor and Eliza Ann Rayner, who was the daughter of Jacob and Eliza Rayner. Robert went to NZ around 1895 he was 22. Ellen Maria Bushell also went to NZ with her family. My grandmother did write down her history and I can confirmed her personal info and going to Samuel Taylor and will be more info. There were some ancestors that went to the states. I have found it a little difficult to get info from there as I am in Canada. I have connected with other cousins that are reseaching the same falilies and they were found through DNA matches with Ancestry.
Again Thank you so much for your help
Aynnie
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14-06-2019, 9:39 PM #16Robert Taylor who was the son of Samuel Taylor and Eliza Ann Rayner
Christina
ps. I live about 100 km from where Robert died in 1938.Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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