Ancestors of Rev. John Eggleston (1813-1879)

[LeeTasOz]

Hi
The Rev John Eggleston appears in the Aust. Dictionary of Biography https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/eggleston-john-3473
https://www.beresford.org.au/history/gen/tree/3864.htm

His father is Frederick ‘Father’ Eggleston
BIRTH 16 AUG 1785 • Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
DEATH 3 SEP 1872 • Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

His mother is Ann A Else
BIRTH ABT. MAY 1789 • Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
DEATH 21 APR 1859 • Newark , Nottinghamshire, England

His grandfather is John Eggleston
BIRTH ABT. 1737 • Nottinghamshire, England
DEATH 13 MAR 1813 • Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

His grandmother is Anne Loverseeds
BIRTH ABT. 1745 • Claypole,Lincoln,England
DEATH MAR 1812 • Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

Here I hit a brick wall. I’m keen to find Rev. John’s great grandparents. I.e. The father and mother of John Eggleston (1737-1813). No other trees seem to know who they are.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Regards
Lee

[warncoort]

Might get a lead here.
https://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk

[LeeTasOz]

The family were Wesleyan Ministers, but thanks for your interest.
Regards
Lee

[wimsey]

FamilySearch have a John Eggleston being baptised Keyworth, Nottingham on 25 October 1737, son of William and Mary. However they also have a John Eggleston marrying Ann Belshaw on 1 July 1783 at Keyworth.

[LeeTasOz]

Thanks

Yes, I saw that record, but other trees have that John either married to Ann Belshaw, Elizabeth Pollard or Ann Daiken.
But obviously it’s still a possibility.

I have obtained a bit more info. I have just registered for findmypast (vs Ancestry.com.au where I have my tree ‘eggon’).
As a result I now have the death notices and burial details for John Eggleston and his wife Anne Loverseeds (both died at their daughters at Grantham and buried same grave no. at Newark). John died aged 73 which gives a revised dob of abt 1740. John and his two sons Matthias and Frederick Eggleston were all confectioners. John (Rev. Johns grandfather) and Frederick (Rev. Johns father) confectioners at Market Place, Newark, and Matthias (Rev. Johns uncle)at Derby. All very active Wesleyans.

Hope this extra info is useful.

So with that revised info I’m still seeking parents of
John Eggleston - Confectioner and active Wesleyan (Grandfather to Rev. John Eggleston 1813-1879)
BIRTH ABT. 1740 • Nottinghamshire, England
DEATH 13 MAR 1813 • Grantham, Lincolnshire, England (buried Newark)

His wife is Anne Loverseeds
BIRTH ABT. 1745 • Claypole,Lincoln,England
DEATH MAR 1812 • Grantham, England (buried Newark)

[wimsey]

sorry, had no luck finding a suitable baptism record, even with the revised date of 1740. When John and Anne married in 1769, John is described as "of Newark" - is that why we are saying he was born in Nottinghamshire ? - or is there other evidence ?

I guess you are familiar with this confectionery anecdote, which I assume refers to the same family

https://www.hawkensgingerbread.com/pages/the-history

[LeeTasOz]

Wow.. no. I was not aware of that confectionary anecdote at all.

So, what does the rhyme tell us ancestry wise?

And yes, I have no other evidence of his origins apart from the marriage record.
Lincolnshire, England, Extracted Church of England Parish Records
John Egglestone, of Newark, & Ann Loverseeds 06 Jul 1769BookCalendar of Wills Proved and of Administrations Granted in the Commissary Court of the Peculiar and Exempt Jurisdiction of Groby, 1580-1800.CollectionLincolnshire: - Register of Marriages, 1560-1837

[wimsey]

you know how further down the generations children are sometimes given a middle name which was a grandmother's maiden name ? does that occur with this family, which might give a clue to John's mother ?

Its just occured to me that I haven't looked for Eggleston marriages in the 20 years before John's birth in 1740.

If we are sticking with Nottinghamshire, there are the following

Job Eggleston to Elizabeth North - 1733, Keyworth
Robert Egleston to Dorothy Egleston - 1726, Nottingham
William Egglestone to Elizabeth Thompson - 1728, Gotham, Nottingham

There may be more. If either North or Thompson appear as middle names later on, it might be a clue.

As far as the gingerbread story goes, if William Eggleston set up his bakery in Grantham in 1740, he might be an uncle of your John - but that's just a wild guess.

Somewhere in my googling I read that the conversion to Wesleyanism occured in 1770 when an anti-methodist riot occured in the market square in front of the Eggleston bakery at Newark.

[LeeTasOz]

Thanks for all those great leads. I’ll have a look in detail.
Also, I have found some interesting background about that William Eggleston mentioned in the Hawkens Gingerbread article you mentioned previously.

It is in the book “Portrait and biographical album of Lancaster county, Nebraska, containing full page portraits and biographical sketches of prominent and representative citizens of the county.” see link below. In the book search for ‘George Mercer Eggleston’

https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009611184

William R Eggleston son of
George Mercer Eggleston Son Of
William L Eggleston son of
William Eggleston (Coldstream guards, who became a confectioner at Grantham)

Can we connect these characters to our John?

[LeeTasOz]

Seems like the anti Methodist sentiment continued to haunt the family

“One particularly nasty saga from August 1831 concerned an on-going (and unexplained) vendetta waged against the local confectioner, Mr Eggleston.

At one point the paper reports that: "On his house there was chalked in large letters a caution to Mr Eggleston to beware of dark nights as they meant to Burke him" - a reference to the notorious William Burke, who, together with William Hare, had latterly been executed for murdering innocent travellers in Edinburgh and selling their bodies for medical research. ”

https://legacy.newarkadvertiser.co.u...r/warner45.asp