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Thread: WW1 Alfred Wagstaff
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31-01-2019, 7:16 PM #11Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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31-01-2019, 9:35 PM #12
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I'm trying to find my great grandparents as I know nothing about them or there names even , will have to try to trace alfred wagstaff birth cert to find his mum n dad
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31-01-2019, 9:47 PM #13
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That we can help you with. (She said confidently when she knows from experience that the correct phrase is 'that we should be able to help you with'. )
Do you know when and where he was born/died, and at least the first name of his wife? The name of his eldest child and the year born would also be a help. Though if that person is still living tell us the name of another child and the year they were born.
PamVulcan XH558 - “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
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31-01-2019, 10:27 PM #14
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alfred waggy born 1878 I think , wife was Florence , divorced in leic 1932 ish i saw online ,then married my grandmother Hilda maud wagstaff.... there son was keith born 1938 I think died 1964 ? He was in the army I think.
Last edited by Pam Downes; 31-01-2019 at 11:39 PM. Reason: Deleted personal details
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31-01-2019, 11:51 PM #15
B M Wagstaff (your mother)
Registration Date: 1934
Registration district: Leicester Leicestershire
Re-registration Year: 1934
Mother's Maiden Name - Herbert
Volume 7a Page Sep'38 (if you look on FreeBMD there is a birth registration in Leicester Sept 1/4)
So your Mum's birth registered twice.
Marriage June 1/4 1938
On same page FreeBMD
John A Wagstaff and Hilda M Herbert.
registration district Blaby leicestershire vol 7a page 159
1939 register
9 Ryde Ave leicester
John A Wagstaff born 11 Aug 1895
Hilda M Wagstaff born 8 April 1904
Keith H Wagstaff born 18 June 1924
B M W born 21 Dec 1934
marriage June 1/4 1953 Keith Wagstaff. If you look on FreeBMD you will see he married a Barbara but her surname is not Pratt. Of course she may have been married before and her remarriage is in the surname of her previous husband. But I can't see a previous marriage of a Barbara J Pratt.
Barbara J birth registered March 1/4 1930 Leicester
1901 RG13; Piece 3007 Folio: 84 Page 35
54 Bruce St leicester
Thomas W Wagstaff 33 occupation Hosiery mechanic (from the 1911 census)
Ellen Wagstaff 26
Ethel M Wagstaff 7
John A Wagstaff 5 In 1911 he is an engineering apprentice
All born Leicestershire except Thomas William born Bedworth warwickshire
On the GRO index
Birth registration
John Alfred Wagstaff Sept 1/4 1895 reg dist Leicester vol 7a page 323 Mother's maiden name Hodges
marriages on FreeBMD on the same page
Thomas William Wagstaff and Ellen Hodges registration district Blaby vol 7a pge 86
I think John Alfred was known as Alfred and he has a surviving WW1 service record on ancestry. Father Thomas William Wagstaff address 43 Aylestone Rd Leicester.
Probate for Thomas William Wagstaff
Thomas William Wagstaff of 7 Sunnycroft Rd leicester
Death Date - 19 Aug 1937
Death Place Leicestershire, England
Probate Date 15 Sep 1937 to Eveline May Lang (wife of Alban anthony lang) and leslie William harrison corporate accountant Effects 1545 pounds 7 shillings and 7 pence
Registry Leicestershire, England
You have Alfred wagstaff as born 1878 but he is actually John Alfred born 1895.
John Alfrred's first marriage
FreeBMD
John A Wagstaff to Florence Midgaff
Dec 1/4 1921 reg dist leicester vol 7a page 487
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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01-02-2019, 12:18 AM #16
Thomas Wagstaff
Baptised 20 May 1866
at Burton Hastings, Warwickshire
Father Daniel Wagstaff
Mother Sarah Wagstaff
1871 census RG10 Piece 3235 Folio 48 Page 25
Rugby Rd, Burbage, Sketchley, Leicestershire
Daniel Wagstaff 49 labourer born Nuneaton Warwickshire
Sarah Wagstaff 44 Croft leicestershire
Ellen Wagstaff 21 Burbage, Leicestershire
Eliza Wagstaff 16 Three Pots Stretton Baskerville, Warwickshire,
Mary Ann E Wagstaff 11 Three Pots, Warwickshire
Sarah Wagstaff 10 Three Pots, Warwickshire
Charles Wagstaff 7 Three Pots, Warwickshire
Thomas Wagstaff 5 Three Pots, Warwickshire
George Daniel Wagstaff 2 Three Pots, Warwickshire
Daniel Wagstaff married Sarah Cockerel or Cockeril Dec 1/4 1847 reg dist Blaby vol 15 page 115
Baptism Daniel Wagstaff
22 Mar 1822 Nuneaton, Warwickshire
Father Thomas Wagstaff
Mother Ann Wagstaff
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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01-02-2019, 12:47 AM #17
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Hi Curtis,
You included a little too much personal information in post #15 about living people, so I've deleted it.
And Christina has been busy typing a load of details while I was still looking.
However, the new-found details about John Alfred do mean that the early medal card information is incorrect. Will try to remember to look again when I'm back on the laptop. (The tablet is not entirely search-friendly. )
PamVulcan XH558 - “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
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01-02-2019, 1:28 AM #18
Deleted.......repeat information.
Gortonboy. Mike.
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01-02-2019, 2:09 AM #19
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SHOCKED AT THE AMOUNT YOU HAVE FOUND IT'S 2AM BUT WILL BE UP ALL NIGHT NEVER KNEW WHO THEY WERE BEFORE TONIGHT PRETTY EMOTIONAL NIGHT ....CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH ...WILL CONTACT YOU WHEN YOUR AWAKE HEHEHE
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01-02-2019, 6:11 AM #20
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Wow , been up all night looking online , found out a lot from your info , did spot a skeleton in the closet , Alfred got married in 1921 to FLORENCE MIDGAFF , had a son keith in 1924 ??? divorced FLORENCE in 1932 ?? my mum was born 1934 ...to HILDA who he married in 1938 ER ??????/ that's not good ! looks like mums brother isn't her brother .....same dad but different mums and there not married until my mum was 4 years old or am I seeing things ! hahahaha Would you be able to get Keith Herbert Wagstaff Birth Cert on there ? would that say who the mum is ? I'm Bloody shocked ! hahaha
And how far can you trace back on Wagstaff ? Bugger me you got 200 years back to 1822 any idea Anna who ? any last name on Daniels mum etc ...I will have to take you for dinner for all this ...Curtis
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