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    Default Visiting Nottingham General cemetery

    I have paid and printed for a burial map for the above for my 2x gt grandma she was buried in a Non conformist section so presume there will be no head stones especially as they didn't have a lot of money. Has anyone visited this cemetery to find a grave and is it worth contacting the local authority re exactly where the rows might be. I have details of the burial from Nottingham Council with the row numbers etc. This will be a one off visit and so its very important I know where I am going exactly.

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    Hi Jane,
    I would get the most detailed map that's available, especially as the results of a search are not always what you expect. For example, I once set out to photograph the only CWGC grave in a relatively small cemetery. Wandered round a couple of times, then another visitor took pity on me and led me to the correct grave. The family had not wanted the standard white slab and his stone conformed to those of the rest of the family, apart from a small green plaque.

    If there's time, it might be worth consulting the Nottinghamshire FHS HERE.
    One thing that you can be sure of is that if you rely on an assumption, you'll find that your targets were the rebels of the family and did something different. There's a good chance that they didn't have a stone, but many areas had funeral clubs where you could put your pennies in every week so that you could have a "respectable" funeral.

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    Thank You so much have read conflicting reports re burial ground records papers going missing will have a look at the Notts FHS

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    I assume that if no headstone exists then the name will not appear in the 'find-a-grave' pages for Nottingham ?

    https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/...neral-cemetery

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    Hallo I have checked this and there isn't anything. Thank you so much

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    There must be a register of who’s where somewhere. If other ideas fail, try the Council Parks and Gardens dept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimsey View Post
    I assume that if no headstone exists then the name will not appear in the 'find-a-grave' pages for Nottingham ?

    https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/...neral-cemetery
    Read the small print at the top of the page - 87% photographed.

    Jane, i presume you have the actual grave number e.g. section B, row 27, plot 4.
    Is the map detailed enough to show you where that is - a lot of maps I've seen only show you where the various sections are.
    Some years ago I went to one cemetery office armed with the dates of death of about eight of my grand- and various great- grandparents and the cemetery had two detailed maps. One with the grave numbers and other was marked with the graves which had memorials (even just small urns) on them. It would be worth enquiring if a 'mermorial map' exists for Nottingham General, so they could tell you if there was a memorial at all. The problem with urns is that they can get moved when the grass is cut and they're not always put back in the right place.

    You don't say how long ago your 2x great-grandmother was buried. Some of my relatives are buried in a section which has been allowed to return to nature and it's difficult to walk to any grave more than a few yards from the road/path. That day I went to the cemetery office it was a lovely sunny day, and the man in the office actually walked round to the various graves with me, but even he had trouble trying to say 'this is the actual spot'. Though if you want to have a memorial then they will pace it out properly.

    My general advice would be for you to find out as much about the cemetery as you can before you go, including if there is an on-site office.
    How are the various sections marked out - my cemetery had a teeny little marker about six inches high at the roadside between one section and another. Not obvious, especially when the grass needed cutting! Are the graves laid longways to the side of the road/path so you walk the length of the grave plus probably another one foot for the space between two graves or 'shortways' so the distance between the graves is the the width of the coffin, plus walking space. This might differ from section to section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    Read the small print at the top of the page - 87% photographed.

    Jane, i presume you have the actual grave number e.g. section B, row 27, plot 4.
    Is the map detailed enough to show you where that is - a lot of maps I've seen only show you where the various sections are.
    Some years ago I went to one cemetery office armed with the dates of death of about eight of my grand- and various great- grandparents and the cemetery had two detailed maps. One with the grave numbers and other was marked with the graves which had memorials (even just small urns) on them. It would be worth enquiring if a 'mermorial map' exists for Nottingham General, so they could tell you if there was a memorial at all. The problem with urns is that they can get moved when the grass is cut and they're not always put back in the right place.

    You don't say how long ago your 2x great-grandmother was buried. Some of my relatives are buried in a section which has been allowed to return to nature and it's difficult to walk to any grave more than a few yards from the road/path. That day I went to the cemetery office it was a lovely sunny day, and the man in the office actually walked round to the various graves with me, but even he had trouble trying to say 'this is the actual spot'. Though if you want to have a memorial then they will pace it out properly.

    My general advice would be for you to find out as much about the cemetery as you can before you go, including if there is an on-site office.
    How are the various sections marked out - my cemetery had a teeny little marker about six inches high at the roadside between one section and another. Not obvious, especially when the grass needed cutting! Are the graves laid longways to the side of the road/path so you walk the length of the grave plus probably another one foot for the space between two graves or 'shortways' so the distance between the graves is the the width of the coffin, plus walking space. This might differ from section to section.

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    My 2x gt grandmother died 1900 she is buried with her father,mother and brother I have grave row etc apparently Nottingham Archives have a map how detailed this is I don't know. I may try the cemetery I get your point about it just being a grass space my mum and I arranged to go and put flowers on her grandfathers grave in Heanor so meeting up with the gentleman he escorted us to a very large grass area and bless measured out and said he is here approximately. Flowers in the middle of a field was rather embarrassing and sad we put the flowers down and came away.

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    Hi All

    Thank you so much for all your replies I have now emailed Nottingham Council enquiries to see if there is a detailed grave map as my husband and I are retired we can plan a trip. Will keep you posted as this might help others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    Read the small print at the top of the page - 87% photographed.
    Pam
    The numbers on Find A Grave only tell you what burials its volunteers have entered/photographed. With a very few exceptions, we do not have access to the registers, let alone time to key all the names. Thus 1244 burials have been entered, 87% of which have been photographed. I'm sure there are many more than 1244 burials at NGC!

    The fact that it's a Nonconformist section has no bearing on whether there will be a headstone, it only means they weren't C of E or R.C.

    If you are lucky, some of the monuments will have plot numbers on them, often on the foot of the kerbs, the bottom of the headstone (you may have to tread down the grass), or on its back. Modern headstones (on recent burials in old family graves) tend to be numbered on the back and easier to read, but beware that some get shoehorned into odd gaps and numbered out of sequence. Another trick I find useful is to see if there are any of the distinctive military headstones nearby -- you can get their numbers from the CWGC site, but write down the names as they rarely put numbers on them.

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