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  1. #11

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    This is the GRO Birth Certificate for AARON ALFRED HART aka ALFRED AARON HART b 1888:
    Registration District Islington Sub district Upper Holloway Middlesex

    28 December 1888
    41 Marcellus Road Islington
    AARON ALFRED HART -Father NAPTHALI ASHER HART Medical Attendant
    Mother EDMEE GEORGINA CAMILLA GREATOREX HART Formerly RICHARDS
    Informant
    NAPTHALI ASHER HART father 41 Marcellus Road Islington Registered 2 January 1889

    The B,M,D certificates all confirm that Aaron Alfred aka Alfred Aaron was the son of Napthali Asher Hart and Edmee Richards and later married Elizabeth Kate Pople

    Nb As my previous research has shown Napthali changed his name to ARTHUR ROBERT HARTT and served as a private in the army medical corp ( see the thread Napthali Asher Hart MD). He was never a qualified doctor as the 2 birth certificates of Rosina and Aaron Alfred confirm inspite of his marriage certificate which refers to his occupation as M.D.
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  2. #12

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    For clarification on the Hart/Pople relationships I have ordered the GRO Birth Certificate for Ronald Henry Hart July qtr 1926 Fulham 1a 361 mother's maiden name Pople; GRO Marriage Certificate Ronald Henry Hart April qtr 1948 Surrey NE 5g 953; GRO Birth Certificate Mary Ellen Pople J qtr 1914 Marylebone 1a 971

    I will post data on the certificates on arrival.
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  3. #13

    Default KITTY MILLER nee HART/RICHARDS FAMILY

    This post provides data from the 1921 Census and 1939 Register on Kitty aka Edmee Richards who was the niece and adopted daughter of Amelia and Henry Hart. Kitty/Kittie married Hugh Miller son of Elly Isaac Miller and Charlotte Crawcour.

    Kitty was a half sibling of Rosina and Alfred/Aaron Hart and sister of Marion Richards. Her mother was Edmee Richards who married Napthali Asher Hart aka Asher aka Arthur Robert Hart. He was a step father to Kitty and Marion.

    1921 (Copyright TNA)
    16 Arnwood Road West Southbourne,Bournemouth,Dorset
    Kitty Miller H 36 years 1 month Married b London Home Duties
    Peggy daughter 9 years 9 months b West Hampstead London
    Betty daughter 5 b Maida Vale London
    Joan daughter 1 year 2 months b Maida Vale,London

    GRO Birth Index
    Betty Constance Miller S qtr 1916 Paddington 1a 23 mothers maiden name Hart
    Joan Athalie Miller J qtr 1920 Paddington 1a 41 mothers maiden name Richards
    Valerie H Miller March qtr 1923 Steyning 2b 426 mothers maiden name Hart
    Margaret Charlotte Angelina Miller D qtr 1911 Hampstead 1a 1005
    Valerie married Raymond S Courtman Hove March qtr 1955 5h 659

    1939 Register ( Copyright TNA)
    222 Lyndhurst Road Hove Sussex
    Hugh Miller M B 30.10.1880 Married Commercial Traveller clocks and watches
    Kitty E Miller b 18.5.1889 Married
    Betty Miller b 22.6.1916 S Design dress maker
    Joan Miller b 7.4.1920 S Design dress maker
    One record closed
    Jack D Miller b 29.11.1894 S Book seller
    Record closed

    Nb Jack Douglas Miller is a brother of Hugh Miller. Probate Jack Douglas Miller death 17 March 1970 Worthing 22 Wordsworth Road Worthing Effects £649

    GRO Death Betty Constance Miller b 22 June 1916 Death July 1994 Mid Powys Powys Wales
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    Default RONALD HENRY HART b 1926 FULHAM

    This is the GRO Birth Certificate for Ronald Henry Hart which confirms his parents:
    Registration District Fulham Sub District North West Fulham London
    21 July 1926
    103 St.Dunstans Road
    RONALD HENRY HART -Father AARON ALFRED HART Boot repairer (Journeyman)147 Lillie Road Fulham-Mother ELIZABETH HART formerly POPLE. Informant E.Hart mother 147 Lillie Road Fulham Registered 23 July 1926

    This data confirms the parents and siblings of Ronald Henry Hart as per my previous posts.

    I will post his GRO Marriage Certificate on arrival.
    As a re-cap the Jewish line is via the father of Aaron Alfred Hart aka Alfred Aaron Hart as previously posted- Napthali Asher Hart- see also the various threads on the Hart/Crawcour lines.
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    Default MARY ELLEN POPLE b 1914

    The following is the GRO Birth Certificate for MARY ELLEN POPLE b 1914. The data confirms her mother but her father's name is missing:
    Registration District St.Marylebone Subdistrict St. Mary County of London

    29 May 1914
    Queen Charlottes Hospital
    MARY ELLEN - name of father missing
    Mother-ELIZABETH JANE POPLE -Cook (Domestic) Fulham
    Informant
    E.J.POPLE -Mother 54 BULOW ROAD FULHAM. Registered 6 June 1914


    Nb The issue regarding the father of Mary Ellen has been posted on this thread earlier. She appears as the daughter of Aaron Alfred Hart/Elizabeth Pople in a census. However, there is no confirmation as to whether or not she was the actual daughter of Aaron/Alfred or a step daughter.
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    The 1914 London Electoral Register confirms that William Pople was living at 54 Bulow Road Fulham. This was the same address as Elizabeth Jane Pople #8 and 15.This suggests that Elizabeth was living with her parents at the time she gave birth to Mary Ellen.
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  7. #17

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    In this post I will add data from the 1901 and 1911 Census relating to the William Pople family of Fulham. The records suggest that this is the family of Elizabeth Jane Pople who appears to be Elizabeth Kate Pople as per previous posts on this thread.
    In addition, it maybe the case that Elizabeth adopted Kate as a middle name in 1 later census because of the death of Katherine Pople in 1916. There is currently no evidence to indicate who the father of Katherine and Mary Ellen Pople was as indicated in a previous post.

    1901 Census ( Copyright TNA) RG1371 38 68 1
    59 Slaidburn Street Chelsea London
    WILLIAM POPLE 32 M H Scaffolder b London Chelsea
    Eliza wife 32 Laundress b London Chelsea
    Eliza daughter 10 b Chelsea London
    Frederick son 9 b Chelsea
    William son 7 b Chelsea
    Charles son 4 b Chelsea
    Ambrose son 2 b Chelsea

    Church of England Marriage Christ Church,Chelsea Middlesex
    31 March 1890
    WILLIAM POPLE 21 Bachelor Labourer 7 Paradin Walk-father CHARLES POPLE Engineer
    ELIZABETH ALLEN Spinster 20 Laundress 7 Paradin Walk-father ARTHUR ALLEN Labourer
    Witnesses Julia Smith, Mary Watson

    GRO Death Index William Pople age 79 b abt 1869 April qtr 1948 Wandsworth 5d 591

    1911 Census (Copyright TNA)RG 22 359
    12 T Langford Road Fulham ( 4 rooms)
    WILLIAM POPLE H Married 49 Scaffolder b Chelsea
    Elizabeth wife 41 Married 21 years 9 children all alive b Chelsea
    William son 16 Labourer b Fulham
    Charles son 14 Printers Assistant b Chelsea
    Ambrose son 12 school b Fulham
    Arthur son 6 school b Chelsea
    Alfred son 5 school b Fulham
    Nelle dau 3 school b Fulham
    Mary dau 9 b Fulham ***Mary married in 1923 at Fulham William George West. Her father is recorded as William Pople scaffolder. She was living at 111 Bulow Road Fulham
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    Default RONALD HENRY HART-JOAN ETHEL OVERTON 1948

    This is the GRO MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE for ROANALD HENRY HART and JOAN ETHEL ELIZABETH OVERTON in 1948:
    The Parish Church Cobham Surrey

    7 April 1948
    RONALD HENRY HART 21 Bachelor Fitter 38 Water Lane Brixton London SW2-Father ALFRED AARON HART Night Watchman

    JOAN ETHEL ELIZABETH OVERTON 23N Spinster Children's Nurse 3 Tarton? Road Cobham-Father FREDERICK CHARLES OVERTON Aircraft Worker
    Witnesses
    R.Overton, A. Entickman? Entickmap?


    The Birth and marriage certificate confirm that Ronald was the son of Aaron Alfred Hart aka Alfred Aaron Hart as previously posted.
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    Default WILLIAM POPLE-ELIZABETH ALLEN 1921-1939

    These are the 1921 Census and 1939 Register for William Pople and his wife Elizabeth Allen:
    1921 (Copyright TNA)
    111 Bulow Road Fulham SW6 ( 3 Rooms)
    WILLIAM POPLE H Married age 53 years 2 months b Middx Chelsea Scaffolder Halliday and Greenwood Builders, York Place York Road Battersea
    Elizabeth wife age 52 years 11 months b Chelsea Middx House Keeper home duties
    Mary dau 19 years 9 mths single b London Middx
    Shell Marketing Company-Petrol Townsmead Road Fulham
    Arthur son 17 1 mth b London Middx Shop boy Hucklebridge Cycle maker Sloane Street Chelsea
    Alfred son 15 7 mths b London Shop boy Lamb and Sons Chelsea Fulham Road Butchers
    Nellie dau 12 years 8 mths b London school part time
    Annie dau 9 years 11 mths School part time

    1939 (Copyright TNA)
    7a Althea Street Fulham London
    WILLIAM POPLE b 12 August 1869 69 Builders scaffolder Heavy worker
    Elizabeth wife b 3 July 1869 69 Unpaid domestic duties
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  10. #20

    Default FREDERICK CHARLES OVERTON 1892-1956

    The following data relates to the parents of Joan Ethel Elizabeth Overton. Her father Frederick Charles Overton 1892-1956 was married twice. His first wife was Annie Mary Gibson1880-1922. GRO Marriage index Dec qtr 1911 West Ham 4a 563 Frederick C Overton-Annie M Gibson. Essex Church of England Marriages, All Saints Essex 24 December 1911 Frederick Charles Overton 21 nfather William Joseph Overton, Annie May Gibson 29 father Samuel Gibson..
    Death Annie M Overton age 38 Reigate 2a 182 Sept qtr 1922.

    Frederick re-married.
    Church of England Marriages
    Parish Church Tooting,London
    8 August 1923
    Frederick Charles Overton 31 widower Labourer 12 Globe Cottage,Am? Avenue Cobham-father William Joseph Overton Labourer
    Ethel Maud RAPERSBY 31 Spinster no occupation 109 Blackshaw Road -father William Rapersby Pastry Cook
    Witnesses
    William Rapersby, L Dannell?

    GRO Birth Index Joan Ethel Elizabeth Overton mothers maiden name Rapersby S qtr Epsom 1924 2a 70

    Her sister is Rita Marion Maud Overton D qtr Epsom 1926 2a 73 ( no mother's maiden name)
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