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    Question Grandad got the DCM, whats this one though?

    My great grandad got the DCM in WW1, I have Gazette & medal cards showing him as C.S.M Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry (KOYLI) but nothing after that. I can't date the photograph really despite my grandfather being one of the lads at the front. I would love to find his medals and keep them forever.

    FRANCIS H SULLIVAN 8678 KINGS OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY

    My question for help; I can't work out what the rightmost medal is on this photo, can anyone?










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    Hi

    Here is his Mention in Despatches in the London Gazette - https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...upplement/8702
    (go to the first page to read)
    - it refers to the EM part on his Medal Index Card, also it is clearer and shows the back on Ancestry.
    You can see the oak leaf on the Victory medal which represents the MID.
    entry for DCM - https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...pplement/13454


    In order you have the DCM, 1914-15 Star, British War, Victory and possibly a LSGC medal

    LSGC - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_L..._Conduct_Medal - look at the George V version on RHS mid-way down.
    Can't find an entry in the LG though!

    As he has all his medals, the photo would have been taken in the mid-1920's or later, depending on when his LSGC medal was issued.
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    many thanks Simmo1, I didn't ever hear about the LSGC until today, I agree the ribbon and clasp (??) looks to match the George V version. I'm glad my other thoughts (including the info RE: dating) are backed up.

    I have no idea where, when, how he died

    I see your location is Australia. I have two open leads on the path that VIOLET SULLIVAN took, the beautiful girl stood at the back of the photo. One of them has her going to Australia, i wonder with her being the oldest child if she inherited these medals.

    If anyone finds this thread historically, and has info about FRANCIS H SULLIVAN KOYLI father of FRANCIS J SULLIVAN who married MILLICENT CLARK, all from Brighouse West yorkshire, I will keep the email address toursick @ icloud.com forever. I want these medals!!!

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    This is a good possibility for his death registration
    Francis H Sullivan
    Age at death -48
    Birth Date about 1887
    death Registration June 1/4 1935
    Registration district: Wakefield, Yorkshire West Riding
    Vol 9c Page 99
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    Are you sure you have the correct maiden surname for Millicent wife of Francis J?
    If you look for the marriage in 1940 on FreeBMD the surname is Kirk as in the mother's maiden name for two children registered in 1941 and 1943, registration district Calder which includes Brighouse.
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    Findmypast have some service records for Francis Henry Sullivan. FMP is a pay per view site but some public libraties do have their free version.
    One of the records is for 1912 and is held at St Mary Church, Glamorganshire, Wales according to FMP. have you seen this?

    Francis Henry Sullivan married Eliza Ann Percival, by licence, January 6 1907. Christ Church Poplar London.
    Age 20 a bachelor, occupation soldier. residence Owleston? Yorkshire. Father John Joseph L Sullivan, occupation gas furnace man.
    Eliza Ann age 20, residence 10 Manchester Rd, father John Percival, warehouseman.
    Witnesses John Percival and Eliza Percival.
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    Francis, Eliza and Violet in Ireland, 1911

    https://www.census.nationalarchives.i...Street/387322/

    SULLIVAN, VIOLET MAY
    Mother's maiden surname: PERCIVAL
    GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 140

    Francis H's baptism?

    Francis Henry SULLIVAN
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 11 Nov 1886
    Christening Place Bangalore, Madras, India
    Birth Date 27 Oct 1886
    Father's Name John Sullivan
    Mother's Name Ann

    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG7Q-CRS

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    George was born in Ireland before they went to Yokshire:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy....35/1588281.pdf

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