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    Default SAMUEL WALTER CRAWCOUR 1828-UNKNOWN

    This new thread should be read in conjunction with previous threads on Barnet Crawcour and Isaac Henry Crawcour and are part of a series of posts on the children of Barnet Crawcour died Norwich 1834 surgeon dentist.
    Samuel Walter Crawcour aka Walter 1828 date or place of death unknown but according to family history he died in Philadelphia circa 1898. Samuel was a son of Barnet Crawcour and Fanny Alexander.
    In 1841 Census Samuel aka Walter is living with his mother and most of his siblings in Northfleet Kent. The family had moved from Norwich circa 1835/36 as newspaper records of the sale of their house indicate.
    1841 (Copyright,TNA) HO107 461 4 5 16 25 9
    Fanny Crawcour 40 School Mistress N
    Emma 20 N
    Fanny 20 N
    Rebecca 25 N
    Elizabeth 15 N
    Martha 15 N
    Hannah 14 N
    WALTER 12 N
    Sarah 10 N
    Nb None born in county and ages rounded

    The 1851 Census part appears to be missing for Samuel.
    The London Electoral Rolls show Samuel Walter Crawcour 13 Hutchinson Place Share in Freehold Properties 45 Mansell Street and 61 Great Prescott Street with his brother Isaac Henry Crawcour.
    As posted on the thread Isaac Henry Crawcour in the will of Moses Crawcour died 1858 he had left properties to Moses Angel and Isaac Henry and May House was one of the properties listed in his will as well as 45 Mansell Street.

    In 1860 Samuel Walter had married Emily BARNES.
    Parish Church Tottenham Middlesex
    June 6 1860
    Samuel Walter Crawcour full age Bachelor Tottenham father Barnett Crawcour surgeon dentist
    Emily Barnes Minor spinster Tottenham father William Henry Barnes Printer
    Witnesses A A Wiliams; Eliza Williams

    1861 Census ( Copyright,TNA) RG 9 378 130 1
    2 Stamford Terrace Camberwell Surrey
    Samuel W Crawcour H M 32 Hosier b Norwich Norfolk
    Emily wife 20 b Newington Surrey
    Martha Crawcour sister u 36 No occupation b Norwich Norfok
    Emily K PERRY niece 3 b Walworth Surrey
    +1 servant

    I will post further.

    Phillip

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    Samuel Walter Crawcour and Emily Barnes had two children- GRO Birth Index Elizabeth Emily Crawcour April qtr 1865 Camberwell 1d 518- Baptism St.Giles Camberwell Southwark Elizabeth Emily Crawcour 13 May 1865-Parents Samuel Walter Crawcour hosier; Emily Crawcour Church Street Camberwell
    Their second daughter Fanny Louise was die in 1874 age 5. Free BMD Death Index have her surname CROWCOUR- age 4 Sept qtr 1874 Mile End 1c 383
    City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery No 478. Tuesday 18 August 1874 Fanny Louise Crawcour 5 -10 St.Peters Road Stepney. Class Pr..? Hour 2 Certificate Yes No.Sq 25 6694 O.M.

    The London Electoral Rolls show between 1865-1868 Samuel Walter Crawcour 32 Church Street Camberwell still with shared property with his brother Isaac Henry. Samuel Walter between 1869-1870 Surrey Electoral Rolss 28 Caroline Terrace Camberwell SE with share of Freehold house and land Gloucester House Kew with Isaac. Importantly, the Gloucester Hose Kew was also shared with Samuel Barczinsky who had married a sister of Samuel and Isaac. This property was also listed in the Moses Crawcour will 1858 to be shared between Moses Angel and Isaac Henry and was a school.

    More to follow.
    Phillip

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    Fanny Louise Crawcour was baptised Sept 12 1869 -parents Samuel Walter Crawcour -clerk and his wife Emily 15 York Street St.Simon Zelotes Bethnal Green.
    By 1869 Samuel was a bankrupt- The Edinburgh Gazette 6 August 1869
    Samuel Walter Crawcour 22 Alderney Road Mile End Road, previously at 10 Nicholas Street, Saint Peter's Road Mile End Road both in Middlesex previously at 28 East Surrey Grove Peckham Surrey, Commercial Clerk.

    The 1871 Census was the last official record that Samuel is shown living with his wife and children-
    1871 (Copyright,TNA) RG10 566 7 8
    10 St Peters Road Mile End Old Town London
    Samuel Crawcour H M 42 Clerk b Norwich Norfolk
    Emily wife 30 b Surrey Southwark
    Elizabeth E dau 5 b Camberwell
    Fanny L dau 1 b Middx Mile End
    William Barnes brother u38 Private b Surrey Souhwark
    Annie Perry u niece 17

    The Surrey Electoral Rolls show that between 1873-1875 Samuel was at 10 St Peters Road Mile End Old Town.
    However, by 1876 he is recorded in the Electoral Rolls at 9 Dagmar Road Camberwell.
    Importantly, this is also the address of his brother Isaac Henry and the 1881 Electoral Rolls give Samuel the same address but no further data post 1881.
    He does not appear with his wife in the 1881 or subsequent census. This may suggest possible situations- he may have separated from his wife and gone to live at his brother Isaac Henry address at 9 Dagmar Road Camberwell and post 1881 or earlier he may have left the UK but there are no records to indicate this at present.

    The 1881 Census ( Copyright,TNA) RG11 1746 66 4
    Show that Emily Crawcour with her daughter Elizabeth is living with her in laws:
    High Street Barking Ilford Essex
    Diana JONES H M ? 54 Governess Head b Stepney Southwark
    EMILY CRAWCOUR sister M 40 Teacher of Music b Stepney Southwark
    Louisa Jones dau u 20 Prof of Drawing b Kent Northfleet
    Elizabeth E Crawcour niece u 18 Scholar b Surrey Camberwell
    George L B Jones grandson 4 visitor b Hants Portsmouth
    +1 servant +1 boarder

    The 1891 Census also shows no record of Samuel Crawcour.
    1891 ( Copyright,TNA) RG12 1333 102 25
    58 Disraeli Road Forest Gate West Ham Essex
    William A WILSON H M 25 Manager to Colour and Varnish factory b London Middx
    Elizabeth E Wife 25 b London Middx
    EMILY CRAWCOUR mother in law 50 Retired School mistress b London Middx

    Emily died in 1900- GRO Death Index Oct qtr 1900 Emily Crawcour age 59 Romford 4a 260. She was buried Tower Hamlets Cemetery 24 Dec 1900- Emily Crawcour b abt 1841 age 59 30 Aldboro GardensSeven Kings Ilford.
    She had been baptised 26 Feb 1841 St.George the Martyr Southwark Surrey father William Henry Barnes Printer - mother Diana Bridge House Place

    Elizabeth Emily Crawcour had married William Alfred Wilson in 1888.
    Parish Church St Botolph Bishopsgate London

    Dec 19 1888
    William Alfred Wilson 22 Bachelor Colour Manufacturer Skinner Street Bishopsgate father William Wilson Chemical Manufacture
    Elizabeth Emily Crawcour spinster 25 Ilford Essex father Samuel Walter Crawcour Merchant in America
    Witnesses-Isaac Henry Crawcour; William Wilson

    The marriage certificate is the clue to Samuel having gone to America. The family history suggested that he had gone to meet up with his sister Rebecca who had married Frederick Aschenbach in 1860 Pennsylvania. Frederick and Rebecca had come from the USA on a trip and left Liverpool in 1878 for a return to NY. Whether or not Samuel was already in the USA is not known and there is no record to indicate that Emily knew where he was or if Rebecca told her if she actually knew herself. Similarly, Isaac Henry Crawcour was at the wedding of Elizabeth Emily in 1888- did he know where his brother was and why did Samuel give the same address as his brother in the Electoral Rolls after he was married. This are unanswered questions.

    Phillip

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    The following records show William Alfred Wilson and Elizabeth Emily Crawcour with their children:
    1901 (Copyright,TNA) RG13 1648 45 32
    30 Aldborough Gardens Ilford Essex
    William Alfred Wilson H M 34 Chemical Merchant Employer b London Bow
    Elizabeth E wife 34 b London Camberwell
    Eric C son 9 b Essex Forest Gate
    Geoffrey C son 7 b Forest Gate
    Philip son 4 b Forest Gate
    Ralph son 2 b Forest Gate
    +1 servant

    1911 (Copyright,TNA) RG14 9 888 46
    92 Aldborough Road Ilford Essex
    William Alfred Wilson H M 44 Chemical Merchant and Exporter Employer married 22 years 8 children 5 alive 3 dead
    Elizabeth Emily wife 45 b Camberwell London
    Eric Crawcour Wilson son 19 s bank clerk b West Ham
    Geoffrey Crawcour Wilson son 17 apprentice mercantile? marine? b East Ham
    Philip son 14 b East Ham
    Ralph Louis son 11 b East Ham
    James Wilkie Brown visitor 46 married Manager Confectioner ? b Edinburgh Scotland
    +2 servants

    There are family trees online which have William and Elizabeth in the USA but records show this is incorrect.
    The following records indicate when and where William died
    Jane Crawcour nee Mann Probate died 9 July 1920 St Breock Vicarage Road Woodford Ilford Essex- Probate to William Alfred Wilson Merchant 150 8s
    Probate
    William Alfred Wilson St Breock Vicarage Road Woodford Bridge Essex died 27 Feb 1938 Probate to Elizabeth Emily Wilson widow Effects 169 1s 8d

    Burial - City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery
    William Alfred Wilson St Breock Vicarage Road Woodford Burial 2 March 1938 age 72

    The family records and photographs which include Elizabeth record her death in 1962 giving her an approx age of 95+. There is a GRO Death Index Record for an Elizabeth E Wilson March qtr 1962 Camberwell 5c 282 but this would require confirming.

    There is data and records including a photograph for Geoffrey Crawcour Wilson son of William and Elizabeth see online WW1 New Zealand service records- Geoffrey Crawcour Wilson b 26 Nov 1893 d 12 Oct 1917 aka Geoffrey Cracow NZ Rifle Brigade 2nd Battalion A Company -farmer 21 Canterbury NZ next of kin W A Wilson father 92 Aldborough Road Seven Kings Ilford Essex- buried Poel Capelle Belgium British Cemetery

    Phillip

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    Some years ago I had discussed with one of my distant Crawcour cousins the question of whether or not Emily Barnes who had married Samuel Walter Crawcour was related to Amelia Barnes who had married David Crawcour died 1882 St Helier Jersey. Amelia Barnes was born circa 1801 and died 1870 St Helier Jersey. Emily was born in 1841.

    I began research to see if there was any relationship between the two women and the following is part of the ongoing process.
    The following data relates to the parents and siblings of Emily Barnes:
    This maybe the marriage of Emily's parents- William Barnes -Diana Dale St Giles Camberwell Southwark 20 May 1819 witnesses Sarah Clark? Rich Rickwood

    1841 Census ( Copyright,TNA) HO107 1086 1 11012
    44 Bridge House Place St.George the Martyr Southwark
    William Barnes 40 Printer
    Diana 40
    Ann 11
    Eliza 9
    William 7
    Louisa 2
    EMILY 3 months
    All born in county

    1851(Copyright,TNA)HO107 1565 11 14
    44 Bridge House Place Southwark
    William Henry Barnes H M 58 Master Printer Employing 5 men b St Giles Southwark
    Diana wife 49 b St George Southwark
    Ann dau u 24 b St George Souhwark
    Eliza dau u 19 b St George Southwark
    +2 servants

    I can't see Emily in the 1851 census but she may have been at a school

    Probate
    William Henry Barnes 44 Bridge House Place Newington Surrey died 4 August 1858 at Rectory Farm Nothfleet Kent Proved by William Henry Barnes 44 Bridge House Place -printer Effects under 3000
    William Henry is the son of William Henry Barnes/Diana Dale.

    This maybe the Baptism of Diana Dale mother of Emily- Diana Dale born 27 June 1801 Baptism 19 July 1801 St George the Martyr Southwark Surrey-father James Barnes mother Hannah

    Phillip

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    Post William A Wilson of St Breock, Vicarage Rd.

    Quote Originally Posted by phillip View Post
    The following records show William Alfred Wilson and Elizabeth Emily Crawcour with their children:
    1901 (Copyright,TNA) RG13 1648 45 32
    30 Aldborough Gardens Ilford Essex
    William Alfred Wilson H M 34 Chemical Merchant Employer b London Bow
    Elizabeth E wife 34 b London Camberwell
    Eric C son 9 b Essex Forest Gate
    Geoffrey C son 7 b Forest Gate
    Philip son 4 b Forest Gate
    Ralph son 2 b Forest Gate
    +1 servant

    1911 (Copyright,TNA) RG14 9 888 46
    92 Aldborough Road Ilford Essex
    William Alfred Wilson H M 44 Chemical Merchant and Exporter Employer married 22 years 8 children 5 alive 3 dead
    Elizabeth Emily wife 45 b Camberwell London
    Eric Crawcour Wilson son 19 s bank clerk b West Ham
    Geoffrey Crawcour Wilson son 17 apprentice mercantile? marine? b East Ham
    Philip son 14 b East Ham
    Ralph Louis son 11 b East Ham
    James Wilkie Brown visitor 46 married Manager Confectioner ? b Edinburgh Scotland
    +2 servants

    There are family trees online which have William and Elizabeth in the USA but records show this is incorrect.
    The following records indicate when and where William died
    Jane Crawcour nee Mann Probate died 9 July 1920 St Breock Vicarage Road Woodford Ilford Essex- Probate to William Alfred Wilson Merchant 150 8s
    Probate
    William Alfred Wilson St Breock Vicarage Road Woodford Bridge Essex died 27 Feb 1938 Probate to Elizabeth Emily Wilson widow Effects 169 1s 8d

    Burial - City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery
    William Alfred Wilson St Breock Vicarage Road Woodford Burial 2 March 1938 age 72

    The family records and photographs which include Elizabeth record her death in 1962 giving her an approx age of 95+. There is a GRO Death Index Record for an Elizabeth E Wilson March qtr 1962 Camberwell 5c 282 but this would require confirming.

    There is data and records including a photograph for Geoffrey Crawcour Wilson son of William and Elizabeth see online WW1 New Zealand service records- Geoffrey Crawcour Wilson b 26 Nov 1893 d 12 Oct 1917 aka Geoffrey Cracow NZ Rifle Brigade 2nd Battalion A Company -farmer 21 Canterbury NZ next of kin W A Wilson father 92 Aldborough Road Seven Kings Ilford Essex- buried Poel Capelle Belgium British Cemetery

    Phillip
    Phillip,

    My interest in this post rests with the residence of William Alfred Wilson and his family.
    St Breock, Vicarage lane was my father-in laws family home, bought by his father (Dr D H Smith) in 1938. I believe this to be the year of William's death. I am interested to find out about certain artefacts that were sold with the house. I am new to this forum so not sure how you can contact me privately. Hope you may be able to help as its not clear how you are related to this family (guessing you are or you wouldn't be researching them!) DizzyLizzy
    Last edited by Dizzylizzysmiff; 17-07-2019 at 8:43 PM. Reason: Spelling error

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    Dizzylizzysmiff- I have sent you a private message-see Notifications. Unfortunately, I know nothing about any artefacts and the Samuel Walter Crawcour line is not my own line but part of the ongoing research I have been doing for twenty years into my Crawcour lines world wide.
    Phillip
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