HMS Victory II & HMS Firequeen

[peter nicholl]

I am trying to get some information on the above, but the time period is some 10 years before the start of WWI. I know that Victory II was a Shore Station and during WWI, I believe that it was located at Crystal Palace, but was it in Portsmouth in 1905? Also, has anyone any information on HMS Firequeen (or is it Fire Queen?) in 1904?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Researching Haselgrove and Vaughan in the Royal Navy

[keith9351]

Try this site

https://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/Index.html

Keith

[peter nicholl]

Thanks Keith, Your suggestion sorted out the Fire Queen, unfortunately I think that, where ever it was, Victory II was a Stone Frigate.

Peter

[keith9351]

If you haven't already seen this site it could be useful

https://1914-1918.org/

Search - Ships and Navies - Victory II Crystal Palace is mentioned but it seems to have been from 1914. Hopefully someone on that forum can help you.
Keith

[Terry Reeves]

Victory II was the Crystal Palace/Sydenham training depot for the Royal Naval Division from 1914 and in Naval parlance, was "paid off" on 21.3.19. It was also known as HMS Crystal Palace. It appears to have had no existance prior to 1914.

Source: Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy. Lt Commander B Warlow RN 1992 and 2000.

Terry Reeves

[Bart592]

Hi

Been trying to find out about HMS Fire Queen my Grandfather was on this ship 19th Nov 1904 to 31st March 1905 taken from his service record.

Maybe training ship in Portsmouth.

[Bart592]

Fire Queen, † 1882
Type: Special Service Vessel - Steam Yacht ;
Completed ‡ : Purchased 1882 ; Disposal date or year § : 1920
Disposal Details : Sold
BM: tons ; Displacement: 446 tons
Propulsion: Complement: 43
Machinery notes: 500 ND ; Speed ; 11 knots ;
Notes:
Apr 1886 Portsmouth
1890 Tender to Duke of Wellington, Portsmouth. Officer borne in Duke of Wellington.
26 Jun 1897 Present at the Naval Review at Spithead in celebration of the Diamond Jubilee.
1914 Portsmouth

[peter nicholl]

According to Paul Benyon's (brilliant) site, Fire Queen, or Firequeen, was a Special Service Vessel. A steam yacht of 446 tons with a complement of 43. She was purchased in 1882 and sold in 1920. My Great Uncle Charles Vaughan served on her from 17 February 1904 to 3 September 1904 and my Grand Father, Charles Haselgrove served on her from 19 February 1904 to 11 June 1904. On 1 February 1905 to 17 March 1905 she flew the Port Admiral's Flag. Some SSVs were used as spy ships, but I don't know if Firequeen was included.

HTH
Peter
Researching Haselgrove and Vaughan in Portsmouth.

PS Looks like we crossed paths.
Peter

[Geoffers]

It may be something you've considered already, but the National Maritime Museum has a very helpful reprographic department with a large collection of photos - there's a an online catalogue to their holdings. Copies aren't cheap, but having a photo of a ship on which an ancestor served gives a nice feeling.


Geoffers

[Gambrill]

I've just come across this thread .... very interesting, as I have studio photo of my grandfather in his naval uniform (Able Seaman, WW1). I'm guessing it was taken in 1914.

The headband reads "HMS Victory", not Victory II.
What should I make of that?

John