Dorothy Cowan b.30 Jun 1909, St George in the East. Mother Eliza Cowan nee Killingback, father unknown. Eliza died 1910 in Colney Hatch. Dorothy was then ‘in care’. I have all her social care records, I think, these include care records of 3 children she had out of wedlock. Her whereabouts where known until 1937, until this time she was employed as a domestic in various places around London, Surrey and Kent. In 1938 a warrant was issued for basically abandoning her children and non payment towards their keep but the authorities no longer knew her whereabouts. I have searched birth records to see if she had any more children, marriage, death, immigration and countless other records but can find no trace of her. Does anyone know of this woman? Any help at all would be gratefully received.
Results 1 to 10 of 12
Thread: Dorothy Cowan
-
30-10-2017, 10:52 AM #1
- Join Date
- May 2014
- Location
- Spain
- Posts
- 4
Dorothy Cowan
-
30-10-2017, 3:25 PM #2
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- Location
- manchester
- Posts
- 1,438
Came across this:
1901
Class: RG13; Piece: 229; Folio: 102; Page: 8
William R Andrews 43
Eliza Andrews 45
Mary A Killingbeck 21
Emily Killingbeck 19
Robert Cowan. 2
The Killingbecks and Robert Cowan are nieces & nephew of the Andrews.I would look at the Andrews and see if you can find a connection.
Baptism
Robert James Cowen
Gender: Male
Record Type: Birth
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1898
Birth Poor Law Union: Stepney
Birth Place: Tower Hamlets, England
Mother: Elizbth Cowen
The baptism image on Ancestry states birth is legitimate.
Birth reg.
COWAN, ROBERT JAMES MMN - VILLINGBACK
1898 D Quarter in POPLAR
Volume 01C Page 598
-
30-10-2017, 3:42 PM #3
- Join Date
- May 2014
- Location
- Spain
- Posts
- 4
Many thanks Pamela for going to so much trouble. Robert was her legitimate brother from Eliza’s marriage and whilst he was taken in by family, Dorothy was not. They probably never met as there is no mention of family in her care records. I have managed to trace Robert and his family but nothing for Dorothy from 1937 onwards.
-
30-10-2017, 11:48 PM #4
- Join Date
- May 2010
- Location
- Cheshire UK
- Posts
- 4,863
Presume this maybe her in 1911
RG14PN2945 RD31 SD1 ED23 SN9999
Queen Mary's Hospital For Children Late, Children's Infirmary Stanley Park Road, Carshalton
Dorothy Cowan Patient Female Age 1
Birth year 1910
Birth place London Bethnal Green
-
31-10-2017, 12:07 AM #5
- Join Date
- May 2010
- Location
- Cheshire UK
- Posts
- 4,863
Death Entry for Dorothy b 30 June 1909
Dorothy Ellen Adamson 30 Jun 1909 Nov 2001 Burnley and Pendle Lancashire
Dorothy Ambrose 30 Jun 1909 Jun 1988 Wrexham Maelor Clwyd
Dorothy Mary Bailey 30 Jun 1909 Jun 2000 Reading Berkshire
Dorothy Kitty Ballard 30 Jun 1909 Aug 1995 Southend On Sea Essex
Dorothy May Beal 30 Jun 1909 Jun 2000 Wolverhampton West Midlands
Dorothy Ellen Birch 30 Jun 1909 Nov 1989 Torbay Devon
Dorothy May Collett 30 Jun 1909 Jan 1992 Brentwood Essex
Dorothy Enid Goodall 30 Jun 1909 Dec 1983 Uckfield East Sussex
Dorothy Griffin 30 Jun 1909 Jan 1998 Leeds West Yorkshire
Dorothy Hunt 30 Jun 1909 May 1998 Huntingdon Cambridgeshire
Dorothy Vera Jones 30 Jun 1909 Nov 1989 Romsey Hampshire
Dorothy Kirby 30 Jun 1909 Apr 2001 Middlesbrough North Yorkshire
Dorothy May Lack 30 Jun 1909 Jun 1995 Northampton Northamptonshire
Dorothy Irene Lowe 30 Jun 1909 Mar 2003 Oxfordshire Oxfordshire
Dorothy Marshall 30 Jun 1909 Jun 1983 Halifax West Yorkshire
Dorothy May 30 Jun 1909 Jun 1989 Hastings and Rother East Sussex
Phoebe DorothyMiller 30 Jun 1909 Dec 1980 Haringey Greater London
Adeline DorothyPeirce 30 Jun 1909 Jun 1980 Surrey South Western Surrey
Dorothy Ada Pilgrim 30 Jun 1909 Jan 1990 Colchester Essex
Dorothy Ramsden 30 Jun 1909 Jul 2001 Nottingham Nottinghamshire
Dorothy Lilian Reynolds 30 Jun 1909 Sep 1978 Bromley Greater London
Dorothy Ethel Roberts 30 Jun 1909 Jun 1972 Cardiff Glamorganshire
Dorothy Jane Sanders 30 Jun 1909 Apr 1994 Sutton Greater London
Gladys Dorothy Sanderson 30 Jun 1909 Oct 1993 Sheffield South Yorkshire
Dorothy Ivy Saunders 30 Jun 1909 Sep 1993 Isle of Wight Isle of Wight
Dorothy May Tyler 30 Jun 1909 Sep 1980 Kings Lynn Norfolk
Dorothy Wallis 30 Jun 1909 Mar 1974 Hendon Greater London
Dorothy Edith Wharfe 30 Jun 1909 Mar 1980 Bradford West Yorkshire
-
31-10-2017, 1:52 AM #6
- Join Date
- Oct 2004
- Location
- England
- Posts
- 9,636
I was going to suggest that you had a look at all the people called Dorothy born 30 June 1909 listed in the 1939 Register on Findmypast. A lot of them have been listed by geneius in the previous post.
You will need to look for a marriage for a Dorothy Cowan to a person with that surname. (For instance, if the Dorothy Ellen Adamson in the 1939 Register has a husband called Zebedee Adamson, then look for a marriage for a Zebedee Adamson and a Dorothy somebody prior to 1939.) Most of the the marriages should be available on FreeBMD https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ (it's still a work in progress).
Alternatively, because you will need to take out a month's subscription on FMP (unless you already have a sub ) to view the entries in the 1939 Register, then all the marriages can be found on that site.
PamVulcan XH558 - “Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
-
31-10-2017, 10:06 AM #7janboothGuest
Trying to trace Eliza(beth) KILLINGBACK in the census records prior to her death, I have come across a marriage registration in the March qtr 1898 at St George in the East reg district for an Elizabeth M KILLINGBACK and one of the groom's names is that of a Robert COWAN - sounds a likely candidate for the father of son Robert COWAN at least doesn't he. However, I cannot find a Church register entry for the marriage on either Ancestry or FMP so am unable to ascertain any further details about Robert snr and I cannot find Robert & Eliza together in the 1901 census, but Robert COWAN definitely married Elizabeth KILLINGBACK as the other two names on the Register page are living together in St George in the East in the 1901 census.
Therefore, I am having a decided lack of success finding Robert COWAN snr in any records so do not know if Dorothy is his daughter or not, but perhaps obtaining the marriage certificate of Robert & Eliza's marriage might give you some further clues.
Janet
-
31-10-2017, 11:28 AM #8
- Join Date
- May 2010
- Location
- Cheshire UK
- Posts
- 4,863
Eliza Maud Killingback
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1876
Baptism Place: Bethnal Green St James the Great, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: Robert Newstead Killingback
Mother: Mary Ann Killingback
Register Type: Parish Registers
1891
RG12; Piece: 183; Folio: 61; Page: 46;
h/household Edward Rowell 42
Elma Killingback 15
Makes interesting and very sad reading as Eliza cannot recall whether she is married!
Name: Eliza Maud Killingback
Record Type: Orders of Removal
Event Date: 14 Feb 1900
Poor Law Union or Parish: Poplar
Residence: Poplar
Reference Number: POBG/131/16
Eliza Maud Cowan
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1876
Record Type: Examinations
Event Date: 17 Mar 1900
Poor Law Union or Parish: Bethnal Green
Reference Number: BEBG/267/054
Robert is desc as a Fireman Mercantile Marine b Scotland
Eliza M Cowan on the 1901 census is identified by initials only, it fits with other info you have provided
RG13; Piece: 1236; Folio: 172; Page: 13
Name: E M C
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Town: Colney Hatch
Robert was her legitimate brother from Eliza’s marriage and whilst he was taken in by family, Dorothy was not.
Robert as you know adopted the name Robert Cowan Andrews, in 1911 he is still with the Andrews family
-
31-10-2017, 4:20 PM #9
- Join Date
- May 2014
- Location
- Spain
- Posts
- 4
Janet,
I have their marriage certificate, and Eliza’s death certificate if you would like them. Robert is Robert James (b.1898) father, he was a ships fireman, so I assume he went back to sea and Robert was taken in by other family as Eliza was by this time in and out of Colney Hatch. Dorothy is Eliza’s child but unknown father. I have researched the family extensively and have many documents etc. I would just like to know what happened to Dorothy.
-
31-10-2017, 4:35 PM #10
- Join Date
- May 2014
- Location
- Spain
- Posts
- 4
Many thanks Pam and geneius for all your hard work. I really appreciate you going to so much trouble on my behalf. I’ve tried all that Pam but thank you. Thank you geneius for the lists, I’m afraid I have them too. I leave it alone for a couple of months then go back again. I thought I would try this site as a desperate attempt to see if anyone knew of her. Oh well, back to the drawing board but again many many thanks.
Helping you trace your British Family History & British Genealogy.
All times are GMT. The time now is 11:24 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5
Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.
Bookmarks