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    Default Suffolk Sparrows

    Hello all,
    My name is Debra, posting from Maryland in the U.S., and I am trying to find any and all information on my Mothers family, the Sparrows. My father had done extensive research on his (my paternal Howe) family prior to his passing away, actually tracing them back to the U.K. not far from where he met and married my mother. Mom very recently passed away, and I wish to find out more about my matriarchal line(s). My mother, Patricia Sparrow, was born in Ipswich, Suffolk in 1932, first child of Herbert (I believe) and Ida Sparrow. I am in sporadic contact with various aunts and uncles living in the U.K., but I decided to reach out here as well and expand my search. I appreciate any and all help offered, and perhaps there is something I can help you with in return.
    Thanks for your time and attention,
    Debra

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    Hi Debra
    So this is your mother's birth registration
    Patricia R Sparrow September 1/4 1932 Mother's maiden name Bales Ipswich registration district vol 4a page 1648

    Walter H Sparrow married Ida M Bales Dec 1/4 1931 reg dist, Ipswich vol 4a page 2460

    So Walter used his middle name of Herbert?

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    There was also another Bales/Sparrow marriage
    Winifred M Bales married Edmund C Sparrow March1/4 1932 Ipswich vol 4a page 1793
    And on the same page Kate E Bales married William A H Quinton.
    These may also be part of your extended family. All records on FreeBMD


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    Birth Ida M Bales September 1/4 1904 Ipswich 4a/1068.

    1911 census RG14 Piece 10848 Schedule Number 152
    No 67 Beck Street, Ipswich, Suffolk
    Alfred Bales 42 Brewery labourer East Dereham Norfolk
    Harriett Bales 39 Ipswich,
    Violet Bales 8 Ipswich,
    Ida Bales 6 Ipswich,
    Edith Bales 5 Ipswich,
    Katie Bales 3 Ipswich,
    William Bales 5 months Ipswich,

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    Alfred Bales service records are available on ancestry.
    Document year 1885
    Alfred Bales born East Dereham Norfolk
    age 18
    Suffolk Regiment regiment number 2229
    Short Service Attestation
    23 images
    He started out in the 4th Battalionof the Norfolk regiment


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    Alfred Bales to Harriet Bales (same surname so relatives?) June 1/4 1898 Ipswich vol 4a 1567

    Birth reg Alfred Bales Sept 1/4 1869 reg dist Docking Norfolk 4b/294
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    1871 RG10 Piece 1858 Folio 19 Page 3
    Docking Road Bircham Newton
    William Bales 30 ag lab Bircham Newton
    Charlotte 34 Kettlestone, Norfolk
    Rebecca 14 Kettlestone, Norfolk
    George 9 Bircham Newton
    Mary A 7 Bircham Newton
    Henry 5 Bircham Newton
    Robert 3 Bircham Newton
    Alfred 1 Bircham Newton, Norfolk,


    Marriage
    William Pyle Bales to Hannah Minns
    June 1/4 1851 Norwich reg dist 13/465
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    I'm glad to see that Christina has found so much useful stuff, because a swift trawl through my large collection of Suffolk Sparrow families has produced nothing apparently relevant. Of course, Ipswich being near the border with Essex, this means very little, and indeed there were Sparrows all over England, any of whom might have had reason for relocating to Ipswich, by the early 20th century.

    I will take a more careful look to see if anything turns up.

    Allan

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    FreeBMD has a birth registration for a Walter Herbert Sparrow in 1902 [3rd Q] in Tendring registration district, which is/was in the east of Essex, therefore close to Ipswich; the district included Harwich, which shares a route to the sea with Ipswich. The age also fits with the date Christina found for the birth of Ida. So it's looking promising.

    Allan

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    One would need his birth certificate to be certain, but it looks as if Walter Herbert Sparrow was son of Edward Sparrow and Sarah Hills, who were married in 1895. This family appears in the 1901 and 1911 censuses in Tendring district; there was also a birth registration for Edward Sparrow there in 1864 [3rd quarter]. I have not yet seen any record for this Sparrow family in the 1871 and 1881 censuses; in 1891 Edward was in the army, having joined the Royal Artillery in 1886: his service records can be seen at FMP, which can be used as a pay-per-view site if you don't have (or don't want to have) a subscription.

    FMP also has Walter H, his wife Ida M., and his family in the 1939 General register, but FMP terms preclude my disclosing the details here.

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    It would seem that the Edmund C Sparrow found by Christina was a younger brother (born 1909) of Walter Herbert. He can be found in the 1939 Gebneral Register at FMP, with his widowed mother mentioned first.

    I shall now move on to other things for a while!

    Allan

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