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    Hi, The love families sure did love the names Robert, William and Edward. My mother was a Love and had four brothers: William, George, Edward and Sydney (don't know where this came from) but no robert. Jim

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    I have moved this to the Wiltshire Forum, as strictly speaking all posts in the Surnames Forum should be closed
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    Where did you find he died in 1868 as
    I have found Edward and Lucy on the census 1851, 1861 and 1871 in Harting, Sussex, England.

    They also have a son Edward born abt 1842 Harting, Sussex, England. 1851 and 1861 census

    Did you see a William born c1845 to this couple Sandyhall because I have been searching for a birth registration and a sighting in 1851 and can't see him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christanel View Post
    Did you see a William born c1845 to this couple Sandyhall because I have been searching for a birth registration and a sighting in 1851 and can't see him.


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    I can't find him either, but have found his marriage to Sarah McIntosh nee Small in 1869 Stepney, Middlesex, England

    Not sure about these 2 that I found
    1. Census for 1871 - William Love - Birth abt 1845 - Billericay, Essex, England
    Spouse Sarah A Love, Birth abt 1845 - Ingrave, Essex, England
    Children William
    Residence 1871 - Billericay, Great Burstead, Essex, England

    2. Census 1901 for William Love Born abt 1875 - Rotherhithe, London, England
    Mother Sarah Love
    Sibling Joseph
    Residence 1901 - Southwark St George the Martyr, London, England

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    Hi Sandy & Christina, You have raised a good question. Most of my research was done fifty years ago and my record keeping is suspect but what I have.

    1. My grandfather William b: 28 Jan 1876 at Poplar, Middlesex, England. Birth Certificate shows his father as William Love and his mother as Sarah Love late McIntosh formerly Small. ( I have had pretty good luck tracing back the Small family)

    2. My Great grandfather William listed in the Civil Registration Birth Index as born the first quarter 1845 in Halstead,Essex county. Wiliam's father as Edward Love, Glass grinder

    3. Marriage Certificate for William Love age 23 Widower and Sarah McIntosh age 24 Widow is dated 17 May 1869. Shows William's father as Edward Love, Glass Grinder and Sarah's father as Joseph Small. Glass Smoother.

    4. I don't know the source but have the death of Edward Love 1814-1868.

    5. Pennsylvania death certificate shows William died 6 Mar 1908 at Charleroi, Pennsylvania, USA. I have a lot of info my mother passed on about her grandfather that he came to the USA to start Glass Factories in initially in the state Indiana and his friendship with wild Bill Hitchcock Don't know if its true? (Now for the surprise his mother's maiden name is shown as Ward.)

    Now I'm confused. Maybe William's father was a different Edward Love and his mother wasn't Lucy Pay?

    I would appreciate your thoughts. Jim

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    Hi Jim do you know what year the all went to America. Thanks

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    Hi Sandy, I think my great grandfather moved his family to the USA around 1886 but remember my mother saying he went back and forth several times while establishing the glass works before moving permanently. I can remember my grand father who was young when he moved here saying that he lived within the sound of the bells from the tower of London. Jim

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    Possibility?
    Port of departure London
    Port of Arrival New York
    Arrival date 2 Jul 1879
    Name of ship - "England"

    William Love age 34 born c1845 Mechanic?
    Sarah 34 wife
    William 3
    Annie 10
    Rachel 6
    Sarah J 5
    James 1

    Also on board
    George Love 36 Mechanic?
    J W Love wife 35
    George 13 labourer
    Edward 9
    Jane A 3
    Mary A 6 months


    Do any of the children's names ring a bell?


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    1900 US census
    Monroe Madisom Indiana
    William Love 54 born 1845/6(crossing out) married 31 years/1869 Immigrated 1879 occupation Grinder P. House
    Sarah Love 56
    William Love 25/1874 Grinder P House
    James Love 22/1877 Grinder P House
    Edward Love 20/1880 Wiper P house born East Indiana
    Harrett Love 19/1881 Indiana
    Rose Love 16 At school Indiana
    Rebbeca Love 14 Indiana
    Charry Love 10 Indiana

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    Sarah is the informant on Willian's death certificate in 1908. William's occupation is Glass worker, born 29 March 1845, Name of father Edward Love, mother's maiden name Ward.

    On the same page FreeBMD
    Marriage registration district Stafford, Staffordshire. Sept 1/4 18 vol 17 page 127
    Edward Love and Louisa Ward
    But the only Louisa and Edward I can find on the censuses 1841 and 51 are born and living in Kent and have no children with them.

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