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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhall View Post
    I found 6 children 1 of these died

    William James Collom
    BIRTH 1862 • Calcutta, West Bengal, India
    DEATH 22 FEBRUARY 1944 • Hong Kong, China

    George Murray Collom
    BIRTH 1865 • Calcutta, Bengal, India
    DEATH MAR 1922 • Plymouth, Devon, England

    Charles Hope Collom
    BIRTH 9 SEP 1866 • Chr. Kidderpore Bengal India
    DEATH 10 SEP 1866 • Kidderpore, Bengal, India

    Richard Hockly Collom
    BIRTH JANUARY 1870 • Mile End Old Town, London
    DEATH 3 OCTOBER 1940

    Hilda Mary Collom
    BIRTH ABT 1873 • Devonport, Devon, England

    Edwina Leonardo Melita Collom
    BIRTH ABT 1875 • Devonport, Devon, England
    DEATH 1 FEB 1947 • East Ham, Essex, England

    Just found another
    Janet Ruth Collom
    BIRTH 09 OCT 1860 • Kidderpore, Bengal, India
    DEATH Unknown

    thank you very much. yes, these are the 7 I have

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimsey View Post
    Should she not return to Janet Hockly after a divorce ?
    sorry, I really meant - would she not

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimsey View Post
    I hadn't noticed that. I've always ignored those heavy diagonal crossings-out. Janet's husband was a merchant captain, so that had been true ...... once.

    So all those other "sailor's wife" women are actually unmarried mothers - I guess one would expect a high incidence of that in ports.
    That's not what I said.
    I said it was interesting that the occupations of the women in households where there was no male head of house was listed had been crossed through. I did then preface my next sentence with 'wonder', not 'this means'.

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    apologies. So an alternative interpretation might be what ?

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    As there is no written reason given beside the crossing through, there is no definitive 'alternative interpretation'. We can only guess. It could just be that one of the census officials didn't think that putting their husband's occupation in front of 'wife' was a correct occupation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    wimsey, there's almost hundreds of instances on BG alone where it's been proven (as much as possible) that our ancestors have changed their names.
    excellent. This gives me a perfect excuse to ignore all the holes in my family tree where people seem to have disappeared. I shall just insert 'probably changed name'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhall View Post
    Richard Hockly Collom
    BIRTH JANUARY 1870 • Mile End Old Town, London
    DEATH 3 OCTOBER 1940
    actually I think this death date applies to his son who inconveniently shared the same name, born 1907. He died when Hatfield Aerodrome was bombed

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    You can't generalise. That's like saying that all dressmakers were "open fruit pies" just because it's known that "dressmaker" was sometimes a euphemism. If they all were - who made the clothes?

    A lot of those sailor's wives were exactly that - check the next census and their husband was possibly home. I have always thought that the crossing out was because "xxx's wife" (you get other husband's occupations - eg ag lab's, doctor's, plowman's from my own OPS) was not on the census approved list of occupations. Some of them probably weren't of course.

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    I think I have this notion that women were such downtrodden, second class citizens that they existed only as adjuncts to their husbands. The death certificate of one of my great-grandmothers describes her as 'widow of retired medical practitioner'.

    Back on the subject of divorce I think I also have this idea that women wanted to get rid of all reminders of their husbands after a divorce, including his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimsey View Post
    thanks.

    I take it the census never distinguished between married and divorced. On that 1881 census she is Janet Collom "married" - "wife of merchant captain" - despite the divorce

    on second thoughts are there various degrees of divorce - does it (or did it) take a few years to take effect ?
    A reason to keep the name of her ex husband - Prestige - maybe she thought it gave her benefits to be known by the name of her ex. and who was going to dispute her married status.
    Reverting back to her maiden name would also leave her children with a different surname to hers and though we think nothing of that these days back then it would be a situation for discussion amongst those who had not known her when married.

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